What happens in an AA meeting
A good article on the BBC today about what happens in an AA meeting – well worth reading.
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I’m jarred and I’m 22 I stay witout drink 4 the whole week bt as the weekend comes I change and party. Drink just go wild I try and stop. But get bored and well go with my friends. I wana stop drinking cause its really mess`ing with ma future and make`n me do things I’m not proud of the next day
Jared, it is hard to not pick that drink up when you are bored. If you get together with your friends you already know where its going. Sounds like you already know what you have to do. You already are able to not drink during the week so at least you are not physically dependant yet-but its the mental dependancy that has you stuck. You already know what you have to do. Drinking too much alcohol alters your brain chemistry by depleting it of neurotransmitters-which can worsen depression. There’s lot of info on the internet-look it up for more information on that. Think about how good you feel in the morning after a few days with no drink. Maybe next weekend you’ll be “sick” and unable to go out with your friends. Make sure you have something to do, like a movie, reading, anything that will keep you good and busy. See how you feel that next day-you will feel terrific. You will know you are taking care of yourself. No one else can do that – only you.
Louise, it sounds like your Mom and Dad are trying to help you-by not enabling you any longer. My Mom and Dad are both gone now-Mom for 8 years and Dad for 4 years and they spent the last 15 years of their lives completely consumed with their youngest daughter’s alcoholism. There was nothing they could do-but they couldn’t cut her off for reasons we really never understood. I am sure part of the reason was they always thought they would do or say something that would get through to her. Nothing ever did and she kept doing her own thing.
My two older sisters and I always knew that our youngest sister was heading down a disastrous path. We always knew one day or night we’d get a call. The call came last May 26 when we heard she had been taken to the hospital the night before. Long sad story short-we kept getting conflicting stories, we didnt’ know where she was taken, we didn’t know if she was alive or not. Eventually, I found the hospital where she was taken and I was directed to the Intensive Care Unit. I didn’t see her name on the whiteboard and knew what they were going to tell me.
She left behind a 17 year old daughter and 3 sisters who miss her so much-and loved her-something she really couldn’t experience in this life. She took herself away from life by drinking her life away. There was nothing anyone could do to make her stop-she had to want it for herself.
Life is precious. We get one shot on earth. Please find that part of you that wants/needs to stop and hold onto it and nurture it with dear life. Do what makes you happy-find out what makes you happy and hold onto it. Reach out to those who will help you, in person and on-line. Wishing you strength and peace.
I am an alcoholic have been for the last 20 years. Had enough of drinking but cant seem to stop. have had a lot of trauma in my life and just dont know where to turn anymore. My parents have told me that if they smell booze on me or if I keep drinking they will abandon me. I just dont know what to do anymore, no matter how much I try and stop drinking I just cant stop. Sometimes I try but only lasts 5 days, I do feel better for giving up in that time but then i get withdrawal symptoms and just have to reach for the bottle. Are my parents doing the right thing by saying they will abandon me? Someone please help, I just dont know what to do anymore
So far my experience of AA is that it’s a cop out and a sect that cannot reach out to those in real need. La la cuckoo land.
Hi Kevin. Isn’t it funny they have all gone quiet when given an opportunity to truly help someone in distress? You obviously need some help and not one of the people posting on this site has offered encouragement. So, this begs the question about AA – is it a cultish thing if you can be part of the group? Or does anyone really give a shit about anyone except themselves? AA is about being selfless no? So, where are the comments to help this man in his hour of need? For this reason, I am not going to attend AA and the twelve steps. It is obviously a CULT. And, one that is contradicting itself.
its costing me everything… i dont wanna say oh i need to go to a meeting. i need more help than aa.. can give. couseling to find my woes? what is actual therapy about.. what does it cost? well i guess that doesnt really matter cause im spending my money on something thats killing me. pretty sure i wanna live. i will never get back what i lost.. a nice family, job ect. i get so bad drunk i fall down n go boom.. have been to the hospital half a dozen times.. but its the shakes, intense painful vomitting, im bleed internaly and the days it takes to get back from it. body shuts down. cant get the batrooom so just pee myself. if you only new. im still havin problems walking from the last binge. if i close my eyes in the shower down i go. then everyone thinks im drinking again. its a balance problem now. just wanna here some feedback. maybe a story or two. whats workin for you folks???
Dear Kevin, Please see the response I wrote to Louise. You need to reach out and find help wherever you can find it and do it now. If you don’t want to attend AA find another group. Reach out to one on one counseling-most centers will charge on a sliding scale if your insurance won’t cover it or if you have no insurance. Dig down and find that part of you that wants to get better. Surround yourself with people, places, and things that will support your new lifestyle. Don’t put yourself in positions where you will drink. Life can be good.
Wishing you peace and contentment.
Hi Mary, thanks for sharing that, i think i do get scared of the whole aa thing, plus my husband thinks its ridiculous that i even went there. In fact he told me off, saying i was going to draw trouble on us etc, anyway its different for us all, but i do find theres good and bad info on the net and im still too worried of what i will lose if i DO go…
Hi
I didn’t reach rock bottom – still had a house and a job – but I did wake up one day and realise that it had to stop. I went to AA – I don’t find it cultish at all – it has it’s foibles – but personally I find it a supportive happy place to go. There are some people I avoid but that’s life. I think it saved mine. Nobody follows me home, knows where I live or taps my phone or empties my bank account. AA has given me more freedom than I ever had when I was drinking. What is there to be frightened of? AA works for a lot of people. Give it a try. Believe me if you want to stop going nobody is going to kidnap your kids or lock any doors! I listen to people who drink again and those I’ve heard are not singing and dancing with happiness. That’s why I keep going back.
Yes i also believe aa members become addicted to meetings, ive heard ppl share things like ‘i had to come at lunchtime, couldnt wait until tonight’ and then not share anything but how wonderful recovery is! i also believe aa works better the more alkie you have been, for us moderate seekers it seems like sheer lunacy! but i can see how it is applicable if you have been the rock bottom sort of drunk.
All;
If AA works for you, use it and stay sober and healthy. To me it’s just a new addiction, a better one for sure. I’ve been addicted all my life and want what is left of it to be free of all addictions.
We all have to find our own way, if it works and you are happy, go with it.
Katy, follow your gut instincts, if it feels right go, and if it doesnt dont go. I believe AA works for some people but not for all.
Having been to 2 AA meetings now (sober 13 days) and going again tomorrow, I can see both sides. I haven’t yet said those words “I’m an alcoholic” – at one I avoided this by just not speaking, at the other, they went round the room and all said it but thankfully one other person said “pass” so I did too. I do find it a bit cult-like and some of the people are very very in to it all, in a way I can’t imagine being. But then I am a single mother and unable to attend many meetings anyway. But I have already heard elements of people’s stories that I can relate to and people have been very kind. I’m just grateful I’ve stopped before I got in to any worse situations like some I’ve heard in the rooms. Oh yeah, that’s another thing. Nobody explains the terminology to you. The rooms, the gratitudes (this seems to be another monetary contribution) and then the chanting of the Serenity Prayer. I don’t know, I don’t think it’ll be for me, but I do NOT want to drink again so if that’s what it takes for now…..
First time I’ve visited this website after someone recommended it and it seems to have loads of useful posts. I must stick up for AA though, it’s quite possibly saved my life. It gives me somewhere to go out a couple of evenings a week (instead of the pub), new friends who genuinely care about how I’m doing, the opportunity to hear others’ stories and how they’ve approached sobriety etc. The “God thing” is odd at first, but the groups I’ve been to are all clear that your higher power can be whatever you want: it might just be 2 alcoholics helping each other. Although I love it, I can understand why people may feel it has some cultish characteristics, although nobody tries to part you from family or money! I don’t find it over-controlling. Have to say the masonic theory is a new one on me! If you’re struggling, I’d suggest giving it a go.
AA works if you have a lot of time (to go to meetings) are prepared to spend time helping others (service work), are seeking a spiritual programme as opposed to just stopping drinking. It doesnt work if you are a busy mum with family commitments and are not at rock bottom but just need support, my personal opinion obviously. I was told put aa first and family second, that was enough for me to run for the hills…..
aa says if you stop drinking you will probably keep your family and have a chance to be happy, keep drinking, no family
Just reading through some of the posts on this site and have to stick up for AA. I have been sober for over 16 years thank goodness. I can see what some people are saying about AA being a cult, religion etc. I guess that I was lucky because when I came to AA I was so beaten and desperate to give up the booze that I really didn’t care what I was joining. I didn’t have much to lose and in fact have ended up gaining a lot. I still go to several meetings a week and it is a large part of my life but then I drank every day and booze was an even larger part of my life so I think on balance I have the better deal now. I am free to go anywhere and do anything which was certainly not the case before. Good luck to you all and whatever way you find works for you is great. I don’t know if it was sheer desperation, my higher power, the 12 steps or the fellowship and support of friends and my sponsor that kept me sober all these years so I keep them all going in case I drop the wrong one!
Lola you should go!!!
What’s the worst that could happen?
I am going to my first meeting next week.
10 days sober
Nan
I rang AA’s last thursday after drinking every 2 to 3 days over a 3 week period. At the time I rang I felt so desperate to change. I have been drinking on and off for 14 years and slowly the sober days have become less and less. I never drink 2 days in a row however once I stop the only thing that stops me drinking is falling asleep.
Now 5 days sober I am not sure if AA’s is for me. I have read so many conflicting stories about AA’s being good and bad. Not sure what to do???
I am a serious binge drinker I am off it today after 8 days.
I have had to take a valium to calm me down
This started with one night out where I planned to only have one night.
I have jobs in the past and think I am on my way to lose this latest one and my wife is at the end of her tether. I am seriousy depresssed today.
The thing is you always think the next time will be different.
This is the lowest I have ever felt
I am going to the doctor to get a sick note I cant do this again.
Don’t give up henryt. I’m going through similar issues as you are. Woke up with a horrible hangover this morning. Didn’t drink tonight
. I won’t give up. I can’t. I hope you get better. Good luck
why is it called alcoholics anonymous when i’d have to stand up n say ” hi my names Bev n i’m an alcoholic” just saying … :-p
I was disappointed when i learned about AAs programme. It was too non-sensical for me and i had many issues with it. However, I did meet some nice people there and believe it can help a certain type of alcoholic. I am still struggling with this but am reading lots on the subject. Now a weekend drinker as opposed to a daily one, not ideal but progressing in the right direction…
I’ve been to my share of aa meetings and was very uncomfortable with that too. The higher power thing gets to me too. I’m not religious at all and felt uncomfortable with that aspect. Also felt like a bit of a hypocrite. While aa does work for many,I think you have to have certain mind set for it work. Thanks
Well, im not sure why people are so down on AA. I’ve struggled with periods of drinking heavily. I have never been a daily drinker or been physically dependent on it; however, I do abuse alcohol. One thing I don’t like about AA is that you must say you are an alcoholic when you speak. So, I haven’t spoken yet. I have only gone to a few meetings recently and plan to go to more. I hold a full time job, have friends, good family and am very educated; however, I do abuse alcohol periodically in my life and it has impacted me negatively. I have had bad things happen to me when intoxicated and although I don’t always get drunk when going out there are times I do and since I can’t always predict it I would like to change. I work out and try to eat healthy and notice excessive alcohol has impacted my ability to really exceed in running. I went to the few AA meetings initially judging the people there (they didn’t seem that educated, some were prior heavy/daily drinkers and weren’t too well dressed). I was wrong in my jugements and as they spoke I found them to be highly intelligent, introspective, good people who have gotten sober. One lady for 34 years with help from AA and numerous others for 10 to 25 years plus. They are good people who support each other. So, the proof is there. If a person is commited they will succeed. I think its because of the support they find from each other. I know everyone has the right to their opinion but I feel the main reason people slam AA is that they have no desire to commit to a completely sober life. Believe me, I know it sucks and is scary but the long time sober people I saw looked very happy to me!
Kasey – apart from my never having attended an AA meeting, you are describing an almost carbon copy of me in your response. I have been wary of attending an AA meeting for precisely the reason you just stated: that you have to stand up and announce you are an alcoholic. Am I one?? Truly, I don’t know. But I DO know that I abuse alcohol and that I have had horrible experiences in the past because of it. I want to stop drinking, which is why I came onto this site. Perhaps the AA format is not for everyone.
I personally feel that, if something works for you, then it works. I wouldn’t like to write AA off as a crazy cult set-up because I have two friends who regularly attend and who have benefited hugely from the support network there. As I said, it may well suit some people and not others.
I enjoyed your post, thank you. It was honest and informative.
I have been to AA and have not found any of the above mentioned. I only went to one group several times and we had fun and it was fun when we all carpooled to get there. Had a cuppa afterwards and it was something i looked forward to each week. I already have a strong believe in God and didnt feel that i had to go to a higher power that i didnt already have in my relationship with Jesus Christ.
I take full responsibily for drinking alcohol and no body forced me to take my 1st or any other drink i chose not to llisten to what i really knew but thought i could be the exception and now have had to face life with out drink. Im hoping that by just saying it like it is for me i dont offend but i dont believe its a decease as much as a chosen behaviour that like anything if not used in moderation will destroy my body
Guys, please use paragraphs to break up the walls of text. Also, please use and punctuation. Have respect for people who read what you write.
As a 51 year old longtime boozer, and former AA or such member, this much I have to say. AA is indeed a mystery cult, with hidden intent to deceive the trapped drinker. They claim alcoholism is a disease, yet ignore the physiological element. Plain fact is, alcohol is but a form of sugar, and sugar like; tobacco, caffeine, etc.. is a highly addictive substance. And with such, tolerance gradually develops, and to the point where one craves. Also happens with; sex, drugs, etc.. due to changes in brain chemistry. Anyway, we eat basically to feel good.. have energy for work or play. Alcoholics drink for same basic reasons.. to feel good. If food or booze made us feel bad only, would we really desire it? Although a heavy daily boozer (varies), I also try to maintain a decent enough diet. Else the booze would have no pleasure benifit, rather just make me feel ill. You can’t take substitute booze for food, and expect to feel good. Also booze is high in calories (varies), and main reason why boozers eat less. Anyway, just my two cents worth on topic
As for AA being Masonic, I don’t doubt it. Many organizations in modern society are occult oriented. It’s all part of the NWO plan, to deceive the populace, and globalize. As a web researcher, I’ve a web site linked here detailing much.
I went to AA a few years ago and came out of it feeling like it was a dangerous cult, with some very disturbed people on power trips, preying on the vulnerable.
Interesting comments about the links with Masonry – the triangle-in-circle symbol that AA uses was previously used by Aleister Crowley in the early 1900s for his mystical society, the Astrum Argentum..aka A:A. He also used the weird Alcoholics Anonymous phrase “Not God” in his Book of Lies:
“The Ante Primal Triad which is NOT-GOD
Nothing is.
Nothing Becomes.
Nothing is not”
At the time he was writing this, Crowley was living in America where it is conceivable he met some of the founders of AA.
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Aleister_Crowley
AA is one of the most dangerous organisations blighting society. It’s starts off with a lie and makes vulnerable people subordinate to a dangerous fallacy. The 12 Step programme is a derivative of Masonary and that is exactly where the higher power element comes directly from. Another lie- AA is not aligned to any denomination or sect – Unbelievable lie, it is totally aligned to the masons. The criminal Bill W wanted to sell this cure but Dr Bob influenced him to go down the secret society route and prey on people when they were at their most vulnerable. In a society where we are creating legislation to protect the vulnerable, it should include regulating this dangerous organisation. Left to their own devices AA destroy people and leave them in fear of the lies they are fed and there are many many people engaged in ‘sponsorship’ who are not fit and proper people to be supporting vulnerable people or imparting their so called wisdom ‘aka lies’. Why should a dangerous sect of unqualified people be allowed to be involved in the care of the vulnerable, if this is not what PVG (Protecting Vulnerable Groups, Scotland) is for then it is a massive failure before it begins. The religious cult that is AA offers NO cures and sets people up to feel like failures if the sect code is not strictly adhered to. AA kills as many people as it helps and it is not good enough to allow them to continue operating unregulated in this country.
i have just awoke from the most terrifying experience of my life, if i’d met fred kruger in my ‘dreams’ last night i would have been grateful…the comments i’ve just read have been really helpful and supportive, especially Biiiiig Al’s, cheers mate, i have always felt the same way about NA/AA but i was going to find my nearest meeting until you reminded me of what i really think and believe, it’s sunday today and in the morning i’m going to the docs to see if they can maybe give me some valium for 3-4 days to avoid the monsters, if they don’t i’ll matchstick my eyes open to not sleep, i’m not going through another night like that, about 3 weeks ago i also gave up weed, which may well be adding to things, but i’m determined to stop that too, i feel like i’m taking on a lot but what else can i do? recently broke up from a 7 year relationship and the boozing went off the scale,so for maybe the last two months have been drinking like…i don’t know what, i do know i have i have two black bags full of empty vodka bottles in my back bedroom i’m too ashamed to put out for recycling, and 4 more with empty cans and plastic cider bottles (sigh) thanks for the reading people, please wish me good luck.
I totaly agree with you, I found the AA so intimadating, i didn’t want to say my name and ‘I’m analcoholic’ to 20 staring strangers.Reading chants etc, it felt like i was joining a sect. But am aware it helps some, just not for me.
Sean..you should try writing with a mac…i still cant find the delete key!!For me it was always the thought of living without booze..”what do i do at the weekends…how can i go on holiday…what about flying….how can i watch a sporting event without a drink”..because my life revolved and evolved around alcohol..it permeated everything i did…in the end i needed a drink to go and buy a drink…the problem was not having a drink problem it was having a life without drink problem…if that makes sense!!
if that makes sense!! It makes perfect sense trust me. Phil i will have to be rude tonight because i cant keep my eyes open. Thats the nice thing about no drinking you sleep. Be good and i will bang a post in tomozza night
Sean…hopefully our chat encourages others to talk…don’t you think??
Yes Phil we dont differ on that one as in encourages people to talk on here. Any way phil if we all talked and thought the same well life would be a crock of crap. I dont have any thing against these Sciantific huge heads because well in a way they saved my life once so i kind of ow them in a way but i like to tell them there getting to complacent in there job so as to give them a boot up the ring peace to spurn them on in to developing better things. Fantasy books you say ummm star treck loved it and my best book as a kid was the secret garden behind the wardrobe. I like to act but not to a Audience and i like to use many many different voices when i am doing it and a hell of a lot of random stuff mostly funny but very near to the bone. I am shore if any body has seen me they think i am the exorcist hahaha. See i am kind of nuts to lol. As a fantacy goes what would be cool and it may become a reality in the near future is if the pasty face huge head could give you a yearly injection to take any affects Alcohol has on the body away kind of like a blocker so you cant get drunk and you cant damage your self as well that would be a bonus and if they can come up with that and may be for smoking to i will gladly be the Guinea pig. I am still a young man really 42 now i think but my lungs are shattered from 60 or 80 a day when i was in no ware land as a boozer. I dont no about you phil but i am kind of in love with being sober now. In the start when i first came of the drink umm think i was about 24 at the time me liver gave up you no well i loved it the sober world then i began to hate it and i became very bitter. Then i hit it hard again because i started drinking shandy as in 2 pints then 3 4 5 12 and then back to normol when the landlord of the pub ran out of lemonade you no and 10 years later i was near dead again and stopped for a bit then it was on off on off. There is massive gaps as in years gaps that i cant remember what the hell i did. Hahaha phil at this point i just lost every thing i had wrote here because i Accidentally hit the backspace when i thought my cursor was in the txt box. I lost the lot lol. Any way i had for got how to get it back so if any one is looking and they don’t no how to when they have lost it. Just hold the ALT button down and hit the Arrow key to the right and it will all come back again. Thats the left right up and down arrow keys.
Hi Sean great post and very interesting..I guess where we differ is that i’m prepared to accept that i don’t know all the answers and that also someone else may have an answer….took me a long time and much pain to grasp the concept that i might be wrong….I think i’ve gone with the collective wisdom of the US science establishment(UK govt and BMA influenced by the alcohol lobby in my opinion) but by no means is it a general answer to Alcoholism…i agree with you i dont think there is one great answer and whatever you feel comfortable with and works best for you is great…who am I to argue with someone else’s reality. Where we would also differ is in that in no way could i pick up a drink at any time…tried that little experiment too many times in the past and it always eneded up in the same place…me bottle of vodka…trouble…if i could control my drinking i wouldn’t be writing this….but thats ok with me now…before my drinking i obsessed on music..fantasy books..girls and then my self…self obsessed i’d say….when i stopped drinking i had to look at all these plus others so is addiction a mental disease??…maybe…not long ago alzheimers,dyslexia..bi polar none of these were recognized yet today they’re accepted s you never know those white faced pasty guys might come up with a cure one day.
For sure, Phil. A huge step for me was realizing that I didn’t have the answers, or even the knowledge that might lead to them …that others did and I had to be humble and accept that, else I wasn’t going to make much progress. I’ve always been pretty independent and looked down my nose at most professionals …my bad. I know better now. Becoming humble about oneself is a key step in the recovery process.
Well if it floats your boat Phil and helps you keep off the booze then buy all means carry on believing its a disease. I like facts to as it goes but when all the so so so so sciantists in the world can not agree with what they have all studied for umm since the 1700rds then i kind of lean to what my own body tells me and my own head mainly because i have lived with booze first hand. Those people don’t. All or most of my family were piss heads but they were all different they were not mental or depressed. It was back in the days when people worked for a living unlike most alcoholics now and they did a full 12 hour shift all met up straight after work in the works club had a good pint came home slept when to work again. Maybe that was the OCD in them or maybe not or maybe we would need a pasty white faced scientist to work that out. I have been sober now my self phil for a fair few years. I still pop out and have the odd pint now and then but i really don’t feel the need to get bladdered any more and did me fare share of booze Phil . Maybe i am just lucky or maybe i looked beyond my alcohol problem that i had for oh god 20 years or more i would say and looked for the problems i was having before i started to use booze as the big block out crutch. I will go along with the OCD as a part player in booze problems but then i think thats plain to see any way. I still count numbers like i use to pints. I still try to do things faster and faster and i cant stand clutter so i have to chuck any thing that has no use straight out the door. If i start some thing i go OCD until there is no ocd left in that project and then i look for a new ocd project. Its what i call getting the best out of the best. Depression is alcohols number one fan because as you no your self if depression don’t make you go on the drink its shore going to pop its head up when your drank enough of it thats a shore fact. OCD has never been a new one on me as far as booze is concerned. Anger wat about anger…..Anger can make a man drink even a man that has never drank will take a whiskey to calm down. Oh then we have the yellow belly pacifist that will drink to get a back bone and get tuff for a hour or so. Anxiety goes with out saying with booze be that your on it or not on it booze gives you it but will take it away. Try and ask your self this and its not as easy as it sounds. If you could go back to before you drank and you was shipped of to a country were you could not touch drink or we lived in a world of no booze then what addiction do you think you would have developed. And when i say that you must take booze right out the way as if it was never on this planet as in never discovered. Sorry Phil i have never been one for big words i leave that to the crazy people like the politics garbage men and the pasty face scientists.
To call alcoholism a disease never did sound quite right to me …it sounds like a trick to get insurance companies to pay for treatment (LOL). Whatever it should be called, for me it’s all about saying to heck with it about life’s issues (that’s called escaping rather than addressing issues) and self-medicating when I felt depressed or hurt about something or felt anxiety and couldn’t sleep. What I didn’t know, was that as my drinking increased over time, that the alcohol itself increased these issues …the depression, anxiety, irritability, etcetera …a vicious cycle that never seemed wrong to treat with just a couple of drinks (usually in the evening, usually grew to 3 or 4, sometimes 5 ‘good ones’ every single day for years and years). It took having my wife move out to finally ‘get punched in the face’ hard enough to realize and admit my problem. People in my family have often been drunks and usually all lived to their late 80s, and even over 100 …I always figured that evening drinks were “no harm, no foul’ …but I didn’t understand or realize the vicious cycle that existed in me and how alcohol played such a key role. Some people are slow learners…
HAHA…firstly i’m a rip roaring alkie and blazing addict to boot and have been clean and sober for over 3 years now…I don’t mind anyone ranting and if there’s one thing i’m used to it’s alcoholics having an opinion whether that be in a pub, an aa meeting or discussing the weather but i’m a stickler for facts and having an informed opinion not just a self promoting diatribe backed up by noise and bitterness with no room for learning or even accepting another persons view…i’m not not saying that’s what you’ve written but alcoholics are excellent at “contempt prior to investigation”..is the alcohol the answer to the disease or is the substance the cause of the disease…it can be looked at as both…a mental obsession combined with a physical compulsion once we’ve had the first drink!! so both need treating…as i said earlier science is moving towards the close link Alcoholism has with OCD/Depression/Bi-polar..now i assume you’d call those diseases..so why the fight against alcoholism as a disease…what do you hope to gain or achieve…a cure..the answer…you’re right and i’m wrong…whatever..the fact is I pick up a drink and I cant put it down again so BLAM…nuts and bolts thats it…so WHY..do i keep picking it up…thats the tricky part..why cant i live life without a drink…how do i live life without a drink and be happy!!…thats the trick…to live a deep happy fulfilling meaningful life without booze….I wont get that by arguing or fighting with evryone i come across thats for sure but all science can do(and it’s the States leading the field in this) is try and treat the complusion..the craving for another drink..then Psychiarty trys to traet the mental anguish..left to our own devices most alkies dry for a period of time will pick up again..sound familiar..the answer is not stopping but staying stopped..so yes I do accept the AMA interpretation as Alcoholism as a disease and I’m a lot more comfortable in myself knowing that it wasn’t just a willpower thing…the second i stopped fighting..i stopped drinking!
hi guys thanks its been good me reading your comments its my first time on here and i have learned a lot about me when iam stronger i will tell u my story thanks again wish me luck in kicking the shit
hi everyone im 35 and have been a alcholic for about 10 years..its destroying everything in my life..i lost my first wife annd just recently my present wife..im scared and dont want too drink anymore..i drink about a 12 pack of beer a day..