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Post by ariadne » 21 May 2011 19:23

Hi Andy,

Good news to hear you've got your licence back.

Jan,

It was good to ready about your ordeal. I was charged with dd a few weeks ago and have the pre-trial and trial in June. I'm scared stiff. I had come home, was in bed and they came to the door. I'd had 25cl wine after I came home, so, of course the reading was positive. The took me to the station and it read 72. Someone had phoned the police when they saw me turning into my really attractive housing estate and that is why they came to the door.

Even with the 25cl wine taken off I would still have been over the limit of 35, so I know I'd done wrong but I am still absolutely scared about the trial and also about the consequences of not being able to drive for at least a year or maybe longer.

I appreciated your post and hope you are well now.

Me, well I've had 6 units of gin and tonic tonight. I know that means I won't feel the best tomorrow and my mood will probably be on the depressed side for the next few days. I wish I could work out how to stop myself.

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Post by BettyBoo » 26 May 2011 17:00

Hi ariadne,

Try not to worry too much. I had my solicitor with me which helped as he told me what to expect. I was also scared out of my wits. Don't be though. When you go through into the court, you swear on the bible and you get asked some questions. It doesn't take long. You need to remember to take your driving licence with you as you have to hand it in. My solicitor forgot to tell me that so I had to walk back and get it. They give you 24 hours to hand it in after your trial.

If you need any more advice, let me know and I am happy to help.


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Post by ariadne » 29 May 2011 06:34

Thanks Betty. I've got a lawyer as well and he's been quite helpful so far. I've got the pre-trial coming up soon and then the trial. Apart from the embarrassment etc., it is expensive as well! Legal fees have been estimated at £1400 at the moment. I can't do it without legal representation either because when they took the reading it was after I'd had a glass of wine at home and that made the reading 72. Someone had phoned in and the police came round to my house and woke me up out of my bed! The person who phoned in has made all sorts of exaggerated claims about how I was driving, which are completely untrue. I am amazed that a member of the public can do that and get away with it. That's why I need a lawyer too. If it had all been right enough I'd just have gone to court when it happened and let them impose the ban/fine, whatever they are going to do, but I can't do that when I'd be allowing them to impose consequences on me for exaggerated claims made up by a member of the public who saw me turning in to the very attractive housing estate where I live. I admit that I had had a drink that night and it was wrong of me to do it and am willing to take the consequences of that. I was stupid.

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Post by Andy » 29 May 2011 10:22

Hi ariadne,

I dont see they can do you if they didnt see you driving and if you had a drink after you got home any reading will be invalid anyway.

Good luck with it and try not to worry, that wont help!!!

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Post by BettyBoo » 31 May 2011 17:08

Hi Ariadne,

Christ, surely they can't do that. I mean they didn't even see you. Anyone could make that up. Did you admit to them that you had been drinking and driving?I also can't see how they can get away with using the reading of 72 when you had more wine at home after you got in. It all sounds a bit strange to me. What did your solicitor say? Let me know how you get on, as I will be thinking of you.
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Post by ariadne » 19 Jun 2011 21:56

you're right. they didn't even see me. it was all allegations of someone who phoned up. i couldn't believe it when i was woken up out of bed to have to get up and see the police. it all sounds a bit strange to everyone including me. my solicitor now has a toxicology report and it has a reading to say that I was only at 20 before i had the wine that i drank when i got in. that actually confirms my own feeling that I was ok to drive when i did. my solicitor is now hopeful i could get off. but i am still really angry and worried that someone can just phone up making accusations and i might actually get my licence taken away and/or fined as a result.

thanks for all your messages, bettyboo, andy, brighteye. i'll let you know what happens next. it's not over yet.

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Post by you're worth it » 08 Aug 2011 10:01

Hi, - no postings on this page for a while. I wonder, how everyone is getting on. I was done for dd in Jan and lost my licence for a year. I have been sober since 12 February, attending meetings, etc, and have no intention of ever drinking again. However, I have two problems: I have just started a new job (after two years unemployment following redundancy) and am scared that any day now they are going to ask to do a CRB check - I obviously now have a criminal record (they haven't asked me yet, so I haven't lied about anything), but the job is with the NHS and I reckon they will put a check in in due course. The job is doing me the world of good with helping my recovery in sobriety and it would be such a pity if I lost it at this stage.

Also, I wonder if anyone knows how to go about getting my licence back eventually. I lost it for a year and I would eventually like it back. I surrendered it voluntarily the week after I was arrested, but I wasn't disqualified until the Court case back in January.

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Post by drasticgirl » 08 Aug 2011 16:08

Hi you're worth it!

RE. Licence - It kind of happens automatically - they send you a licence renewal reminder just as your disqualification is coming to an end - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Dr ... DG_4022491

As for CRB checks - they are usually a pre-employment check - and you say you've started already? This info came from the NHS employment website:

"Pre-employment checks

Your new employer will carry out a series of pre-employment checks before you are able to start work.

Verification of identity: The employer will request a combination of photographic and non-photographic documents to verify your identity.
Right to work checks: Most overseas nationals who do not live in the UK or European Economic Area (EEA), but want to work in the UK, will be required to provide evidence of a sponsor and have a valid certificate of sponsorship. It is the responsibility of the UK employer to issue you with a certificate of sponsorship. Visit the UK Border Agency website for more information.
Qualification checks: Qualifications relevant to the position you have applied for will be verified once a job offer is made.
Registration checks: Before appointing a health professional, the employer will check whether you are registered with the relevant regulatory body and whether any special conditions apply. Please see the website links section for contact details of your relevant professional body. They have in-depth information about registration for each profession.
Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) checks: Employers may ask for a CRB check depending on the type of work you will be doing. The CRB disclosure will reveal if an individual has a criminal record. The employer will then make an informed decision on whether or not to appoint that individual.
Reference checks: In order to check previous employment history, references will be requested by the employer with your consent. They should be obtained in writing by an appropriate person, for example someone with management responsibility, and should be fair and objective.
Occupational health checks: Each NHS employer will give staff an occupational health check. This is to ensure that you are fit for work and so that your employer can provide you with any adaptations for you to do your job, for example a special chair, keyboard etc."

Well done on the new job and on maintaining your sobriety! I'm really chuffed for you. All best.

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Post by pepsimaxrock » 09 Aug 2011 21:51

This happened a couple of years ago but it really upset me and set me back ages, thankfully I have started on the AFD path again, well just today, and I hope I can keep it going for a good while.

However I went to my GP about my drinking a couple of years ago, she agreed I was drinking too much, gave me a couple of addresses for counselling services and then said I would have to surrender my licence.... .because I was always going to be over the limit and alcohol abusers were not entitled to driving licences. She said she had a legal obligation to tell me this, and that the government had backed down from making it a legal obligation on GPs to shop their patients for alcohol abuse.

I was really upset, and couldnt believe I had gone for help only to be told to give up my car, which I need for my job and for everything else in my life.

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Post by joanneholdbrook » 16 Aug 2011 07:54

blimey pepsi my gp has never said anything like that to me or the police when iv been at home drunk they cant make you do that surely i agree if you are driving but i dont see how other wise x

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Post by ariadne » 04 Oct 2011 19:21

Today was the day. It was postponed from the end of June till today and I ended up losing my license for a year (nine months if I go on some course) and a fine of £650. I found the whole thing really stressful and humiliating. I need to cheer myself up but don't know what to do and I'm exhausted as well. Any suggestions?

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Post by ariadne » 06 Oct 2011 21:30

Hi Space

Sorry you are going through all this. Hope you feel better soon and can get back on the road to recovery. Best thing to do is get a lawyer. There are some who specialise in traffic offences and dd. I know mine offered me a lot of support, took me seriously and it made me feel better. As you can see from above, I got a lot of support here too. Hope things work out.

Take care.

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Post by innit » 08 Oct 2011 18:18

I posted yesterday here to Space that drink-drivers were losers. I explained why I believed drink drivers were losers. The post was not abusive, it was a very honest and factual post.

Thanks for deleting it George (you have obviously never known a child who has been mowed down dead by a pissed up idiot).

All drink drivers should go to prison.

My original post about drink driving was not aimed at Space, it was aimed at everyone who gets into a car to buy that extra bottle.

(Quick George, delete this post before anyone reads it). (If this is a web site for alcoholics, and you can not air your views about drink driving, then this place sucks). (I suppose we could pretend everything is lovely and the drink drivers are lovely too).
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Post by innit » 08 Oct 2011 18:47

Quick answer.

Im here to moan about drink drivers Mr. Wolf

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Post by MrsSuggs » 08 Oct 2011 19:03

Innit

You sound like you may've been personally affected in some way by a drink driver and, if that is the case, I'm sure we all feel for you.

However, if you're trying to get a point across, it may be better accepted if you do it in a less aggressive nature.

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Post by innit » 08 Oct 2011 19:05

good comment, like i said i'm not up for winding anyone up.

drink driving is a major issue, i spoke about my feelings yesterday here and some guy called George saw fit to delete my words.

I wrote those words on an alcoholic web site about an alcoholic issue.

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Post by MrsSuggs » 08 Oct 2011 19:13

If George saw fit to delete your post, I'm sure he did it because it breached the forum rules in some way and I doubt he would've done it lightly.

As I said, if you really want to get your message across to drink drivers, try doing it in a non-aggressive way and I'm sure you'd get a better response. You may even make people think twice if they're about to get in a car after a drink.

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Post by MrsSuggs » 08 Oct 2011 19:21

All alcoholics drink drive at some point.

They do.

Drunks drink drive.
What exactly do you base this on?

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Post by caroline95 » 08 Oct 2011 19:57

I can honestly say, hand on heart, that although I have a drink problem, I have never, ever got in a car and driven under the influence, so your post that said "all alcoholics drink drive at some point' is just wrong, Innit.Also, George would not have deleted your post unless it was breaching BE forum rules.

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Post by linda6666 » 09 Oct 2011 17:27

INNIT... Not all drinkers drive while drunk so NO you are wrong..
It cost me a fortune in taxis so i could drink and not put others in danger..Dont label all with the same label, yes some do and some pay for what they do..
Its not just so cut and dried "OH THEY DRINK/OWN A CAR SO THEY DRIVE IT".....Mine stayed at my door for many months not even touched... ;)? Yes im still paying for the bloody taxis 12 months later, but still have my licence and a clear conscience :)
I Have a Guardian Angel in heaven... I call him DADDY BEAR. I AM NOW 9 YEARS DRY AND LOVING IT,SO PROUD OF ME ;-)
We are all given a 2nd chance every day, it's just we don't usually take them . I TOOK MINE

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