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Mostly Sober

Post by Tai » 04 Mar 2015 06:27

This thread is for those whose goal is to be abstinent as their default position but with planned occasional drinking integrated within that goal. It is NOT intended that this thread promote binge drinking as a goal nor to validate it as an effective way to deal with problem drinking. BrightEye exists to support those whose alcohol related goals are centred on the principles of abstinence or control and moderation.

With this in mind, here is a place to share experiences of approaches to occasional drinking. What works and what doesn't? As well as supporting those whose goals include occasional drinking this thread might also be useful for those interested in or considering trying to drink on occasion.

The thread title is just for opening ... if you'd like to change it then discuss it here, reach consensus and then contact any Mod and it will be changed forthwith. Have a good day folks.
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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by cowboy » 04 Mar 2015 13:57

Thanks Mods and my amigo Sling for shaking it up around here. Right now I am not drinking and I am proud of myself. Damn proud. Giddy up. Cowboy.

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Post by aprilstart » 04 Mar 2015 16:31

I've got no plans to drink and my aim is to continue to stay always sober, but I've been at a bit of a loss where to post. I've been mostly sober since last July 13th with three slip ups. So my LDD is now very recent and it will be yonks before I'm anywhere near achieving 6 months again. After slipping up I didn't feel that I was back to square one in terms of battling through the horrible ' first 7 days" or even that I was in for a full relapse , just that I'd let myself down, regretted it but that fundamentally I was more a sober person than not. Going back to the challenges from the start felt a bit demoralising and insincere as I wasn't facing the withdrawal struggle. At some point I will rejoin the appropriate challenge but not yet. I've stayed hovering around the 6 mt because that's where my threadies are, the ones I've " grown up" with but obviously they're moving on up (::) so a mostly sober thread works for me, I don't intend to drink but welcome this thread to use as a place for peeps like me who've got mostly sober. (got to add that the only person who really worries about my slips ( in terms of where I hang out on the boards) is me, I think we all find it far easier to understand and forget each others slip ups than we do our own. ) ;)? Ann Marie xx

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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by macchiatto » 04 Mar 2015 19:26

Couldn't put it better myself, Slingy, <:)> Ann Marie, <:)> Cowboy, me in a nutshell. Cowboy, so lovely to see you, it's been ages, thrilled you are doing so well. Got to go, will post more later, love to all. <:)> <:)>
And that is such a great expression Slingy, such a colloquial way of saying 'do you want to get together?' <:)>

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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by cazzzm » 04 Mar 2015 20:48

Hi slingy, cowboy, April and macs. Slingy, great idea for a thread. April, i love your post. That's exactly how I feel so I end up not posting at all. I've just been on holidays but now I'm back and ready to commit to sobriety again and I think I will find it easier to be on a thread that doesn't say "never again". Knowing that I can if I want to at some future date will make it easier to say no today. And if I slip up in three months or whatever I don't have to feel like a complete failure. I'll just be mostly sober :D

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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by cazzzm » 04 Mar 2015 20:52

Crossed posts slingy, haha can just picture you. Hubby set his alarm on beep instead of radio the other day. Absolutely horrid way to wake up. <:)>

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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by Finley » 05 Mar 2015 09:04

Hello all. Just popping in to say hello. I'm off out today to the Tower of London with daughter, so no time for a proper post. We'll be having lunch out too - an AF one, but may treat us both to a special mocha with whipped cream afterwards :D Hope it's a good day for all xx
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Post by macchiatto » 05 Mar 2015 12:27

Enjoy Finley, I love all those jewels in the Tower of London, jaw dropping!!!! Hope you enjoy your lunch and mocha, you deserve a nice day out. Glad you got some sunny, warm weather Slingy. The campervan sounds like a great idea, just imagine the sleep ins if you are on site and it must be really nice working in the country. It's horrible waking up like that, all bells and whistles blowing, and so much more civilised to wake naturally. I guess you couldn't say that to the boss though, sadly. :shock: Must have been mortifying. Sounds like there may be a shake up where we are, some jobs may go. Oh well, there's always Sydney Buses, I guess, they're always advertising for trainee bus drivers. Maybe time for a mid life career change, ha ha! I've always wanted to drive a Mercedes! Cazzy, it's so lovely to see you here. Please stay for a while, I so get what you say and you mustn't ever feel you are a failure, you are not at all. Ann Marie, you are quite right there, we really should not be that hard on ourselves. Hope you are all having a great day, I am off to bed.
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Post by aprilstart » 05 Mar 2015 17:13

Cazzm \:)/ \:)/ lovely to see you again . Hope you had a great holiday and good to hear you're up for AF Dom again. So pleased slingy has tempted you with a new thread and look forward to traveling with you.
I've got a yeuch stomach bug so no long post from me, maccs, slingy, cowboy <:)> for all.
Finley, hope your day out was fun , looking at jewelse, what's not to love ;) x

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Post by Finley » 05 Mar 2015 17:26

Oh Ann Marie - I hope your tummy gets better soon <:)> Slingy - I love camper vans and would definitely buy one if I won the lottery......great idea for making sure you're at work on time ;)?

Looks like there's a smashing Crew signing up on this thread :D

Had a great time at the tower - travelled to and from it by river, so that was nice too. The jewels are amazing but so is the sense of history and tragedy about many of the 'towers within the tower'. Looking at Traitor's Gate, you can just imagine the sense of terror and doom people would have felt as they were rowed in to the bottom of the steps leading to their prison...
Had lunch there but I have to say the fish n chips were rather overpriced and not as good as the ones at my local chippy...the cake and coffee we had afterwards were great though :D

Don't need to cook a big dinner tonight - so thinking maybe tuna and cheese omelette or something like that - quick, easy, tasty and cheap (good job since I need to pay balance off my holiday in a week or two..).

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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by Shadowlad » 05 Mar 2015 22:39

Just popped in to wish everyone well on this sprightly new thread and am now nearly weeing myself after reading Slingy's post ! :lol: :lol:

Anyway, love to all, take care <:)> <:)>
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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by cowboy » 05 Mar 2015 23:53

Who needs to drink when there is always a dose of Sling to cheer us up. Just have this vision of Ozzy with a tazer in some midevial costume. 70's rerun. Loving sobriety.

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Post by macchiatto » 06 Mar 2015 06:19

Hi Everyone
Glad you had a good time at the tower Finley, must have been a lovely trip coming up the river. The history in these places is amazing, especially coming from a country like ours where we see something 100 years old and think it's ancient. I remember walking into one room, I can't remember which one though (colander brain), and there was writing etched on the walls from prisoners held there that was hundreds of years old. Like you say, the sense of doom must have been terrifying. Just walking on the steps and seeing them worn with age and who would have walked there before you is incredible. Hope you are feeling better this morning Ann Marie, there's nothing worse than that blah in the stomach feeling. A chemist once told me a bag of salty crisps and a can of coke does wonders for an upset stomach. Great excuse to have a bag of Tyrells, Ann Marie darling! <:)> Poor Dame Vera, I guess at her age she needs something stronger than a cup of coffee in the morning to keep her heart going. You can just see her standing there breaking into song, 'we'll meet again", then zap, thwack, plop and "oh bollocks", over and over again. Mind you Ozzie probably would enjoy tazering himself so there could end up being a bit of a battle for ownership. Thanks Slingy, I hope it is too, but I kind of think sometimes these decisions are made for you, no point getting bitter and twisted if it ends up that way. No I would look after the OAPs for sure, probably install a coffee machine at the front so Doris and Alf could enjoy a cappuccino as they step on board, and wait for them to slide into their seats before I take off. I would get all the ill bred school grommets travelling free to their private schools (is that public in the UK?) at the tax payers expense off their seats down the back of the bus so the little oldies could sit down, and would nag them like a mother until they did. If there was any pushing in, I would borrow Ozzy's tazer and eject them quick smart. If they were good and well behaved I would sing Abba songs to them, and hits from the 80's, something you would probably get sick of in your campervan after about, ooh, say 20 minutes. There would be no hard feelings if you chose to leave me in a paddock, as long as you left me Bob for company. He could busy his day cleaning your commode, (are they called porta-loos these days), making daisy chains and digging for the odd potato. Shadow, Cowboy, likewise, love that laugh out loud moment in the morning with my tea and muesli!!!. When I see Ozzy I always think of Spinal Tap. I loved that movie, never forget the Stonehenge scene on stage, what a scream. Hope you are waking to a fabuloso day, enjoy!
PS, Cazzy hope you have had a good day. xoxo

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Post by cazzzm » 06 Mar 2015 09:06

Hi everyone, Slingy I think we are part of a lucky group that get ASMR. If you google the definition people still doubt it is a real thing. I've always had tingles even as a kid. Finley sounds like you had a great day. I would love to visit London. Annemarie, I hope you are feeling much better by now. <:)> hi Shadowlad and cowboy, good to see you. Maccs you're so funny, I'd ride on your bus but only as long as there is no abba singing and can I have a chocolate with my coffe please?
Had a great day today and I'm looking forward to a long weekend. The cool weather is here and I'm loving it. Autumn is the best. Love to all
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Post by Finley » 06 Mar 2015 12:20

Hi all. Slingy - I can think of a few people I could line up for Dame Vera :lol: Yes, Macchs - there is ancient graffiti carved into the walls of several of the rooms at the tower. Most dating back to the 1500s - early 1600s and mainly either catholics being held for alleged treason against protestant monarchs or vice versa. As my daughter and I were looking at the inscriptions yesterday it made me think how, regardless of the different eras, humans are really basically all the same. Go into any prison or police cell - or into many classrooms for that matter - and we see people's names carved into walls, desks etc - well, maybe not desks so much these days (we still had wooden ones when I was at school - and blackboards, not whiteboard :shock: ). It's as though there's a cry of 'I am here' - especially those etchings in the Tower walls. Very tragic the harm done in the name of 'religion' although of course it was really about politics and power - much the same today, I reckon........

Well - I am back from doctor's appointment. A rather intrusive and embarassing examination (won't go into too much detail) now to be followed up by other tests. Ah well, better safe than sorry, eh?

Have just paid off my summer holiday - Phew! I was beginning to think I wouldn't manage it - and have even ordered our Euros (even though we don't go until July) - so now just have to sort out travel insurance and we're good to go :D

Hmph - maybe I ought to pay the gas and leccy bill while I think about it.......

Off out for a meal with one of my best mates this evening - but early. Not planning on it becoming a drinking session though - I have a birthday meal to cook for another friend tomorrow and we're going to the V & A museum on Sunday - so plenty of stuff lined up which should keep me sober..

Hope it's a great Freedom Friday for all and will pop back later xx
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Post by cowboy » 06 Mar 2015 13:32

Pushing the one week sober envelope here folks. Feeling really good and so far no thoughts of drinking this weekend. Just finished one of those health food books - yes I see y'all smiling. Silly Cowboy reading health food books. Anyways my body is reacting quite nicely to the significant reduction in alcoholic beverages that I had been pumping into it. Thinking maybe reducing some of those other processed foods may help as well. So last night in a fit of health crazed readiness I rummaged through my cupboards and boxed up all of those processed foods, grains, flours and other nastiness that make my stomach ache and gave them away. Its vegetables, lean meats, fruit and other good stuff for this decrepit body for the next while and hopefully forever. Been watching what I eat a much more closely now that I am not drinking - funny how that is. Looking forward to the Cowboy Effect experiment (that's a shout out about 2 wonderful books I have just read about a certain Don Tillman).

Slingy. What a vision you sitting on a pile of cement thinking about me. I am waiting for you to join me here in the Rockies and when you get here we are going to get a couple mountain horses and go for ride amigo. One of those overnight rides in the back country where we can have a campfire and sleep under the stars and talk about life and how absolutely wonderful it is. Who knows with your British charm we can even get some lovely birds to joins us for a campfire bowl of beans.

It's funny how the cool people seem to congregate on the same threads eh? ;) So many of the folks that I have had a wonderful dialogue with over the years. The mystical cazzm. April Start. Looks like another April around the bend and you are in a better place sweetie. Fins. Our every own London Tower traveler. Never been there but I have some visions of the hunchback of notre dame for some reason. Macchiatto who has been in these parts for a while and always adds something positive and interesting to add. And of course the lovely and talented Shadow who has been an inspiration and a friend to me over some tough times fighting the beast in these parts. Looking forward to sharing my mostly sober journey with all of you and stay tuned for a more healthy and wholesome Cowboy. Gotta go and get my eggs from my free range chickens now. It's quite a challenge don't you know.

Happy Trails Folks. Cowboy.

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Post by aprilstart » 06 Mar 2015 16:11

I am delighted to report that my stomach is fully recovered, thanks everyone for your concern, and Slingy for your " sympathy" . I am truly glad I had early night and did not read your latest ramble till this morning, there may have been an accident :shock: same goes for you mad maccs :D lovely visions of you and Bob mali skipping through the fields of daisies, the slingmobile parked up and abba wafting in the air. Slingy, commodes are expensive.. Only get one if you're feeling flush, ha ha. The Red Cross rent them out though. I have become an expert in matters disability wise of late. This may be TMI but at present we have one of those attractive flesh pink plastic elevator seats on our loo due to OHs hip replacement. Not a good look.
We had Ozzie as our sat nav voice for a while, " turn left at the fuckin junction " in broad Brummie- I wanted to taser him.
Cazz, I listened to heather feather hairdresser and just found it creepy, clearly I don get ASMR.
Cowboy, great stuff on your AF run - great to hear you're feeling the benefit. Finley, I got to know some beefeaters a few years back and went drinking in their ( heavily subsidised) bar late at night. That was sooo spooky, being escorted out of the tower after hours. I saw the ceremony of the keys ( locking up) the same ceremony every night since 15 something, it really does send shivers down the spine. I am so pleased it's the weekend, nothing planned hurrah, just no work. Hope everyone has a restful one apart from finley who has a busy one! Lots of love, Ann Marie xx

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Post by macchiatto » 07 Mar 2015 07:16

Hi Everybody,
Cazz I get the AMSR and I always did, like you even as a child, but I never knew what it was, particularly if someone did something nice for me I would get all funny in the tummy and goosey!! I will be on the plane with you to London, any time you like pet, we could take over Slingy's campervan, we would have to strap Bob to the roof racks. :D Lucky you having a long weekend, bliss!
Finley I do remember one room we were in had something to do with a particular catholic priest. I think eventually he was executed. Yep, that whole might is right thing, it's been like that for aeons, and even after everything we have learned through history, the brutality of some people in power/governments takes your breath away. Hope everything turns out OK as far as GP, but am so glad you are going on a holiday, that will be really lovely for you. You work damn hard, it will be nice for you to get away and enjoy yourself. Enjoy your weekend, it sounds grand.
Cowboy, congratulations on the one week, (::) and you are not silly for reading the health food books. It's great to get a different slant on how to feed yourself. Sounds like you are on the right track getting back to basic good food (she says as she stuffs another handful of Tyrell's chips in her mouth). Will check out those books, I might have better luck at borrowing them from the library as opposed to Girl on a Train which has been reserved until the end of the year!!!
That sounds fabulous Cowboy/Slingy, strange, I am feeling a John Denver song coming on, can't help myself, here it is:
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I am looking forward to hearing more about life in the Rockies, that is for sure Cowboy. xo
Ann Marie I am so glad your tummy is better, and very funny, flush! There is a council clean up happening around here, so I will keep an eye out for anything interesting that may be required in a campervan, including potties. That's right, me and Bob Mali skipping hand in hand into the sunset with our daisy chains on our heads, singing Strawberry Fields forever!!! I would love to have Ozzie on my sat nav, better than the boring bloke that is on there now. Sounds like a fab night out with the beefeaters how fantastic, you would have felt very safe!
Slingy, glad your little mouth is feeling better, one phobia down, well done! There are ways and means with phobias!! You could always sail over to Cowboys and do the rest by hoss!!!! I can just seem him waiting for you at the port with the chuck wagon hooked up, loaded down with all those beans, luxury thunderbox strapped to the back of the wagon. I am sure he's got a gun, he will just shoot the bastards!!! See, no problems!! All sorted! Yew, and can you imagine those dunny's anywhere in Australia in 35 degree heat, bleuh!! No wonder tradies develop kidneys like camels and bowels that clamp shut between the hours of 7.00 a.m. and 4.00 p.m. (Sorry, maybe TMI), Fifty shades of Grey, more like Fifty Shades of Brown! I look at that guy and think, serial killer! Who remembers Nine and a Half Weeks, beats the other one hands down!. Girls, Mickey Rourke!!! Now sadly, he looks like he has just had a nasty accident in his second world war training plane, oh sorry that was Harrison Ford. Glad you liked the Charlie's Country trailer, Slingy, let me know if you can't get it I will hunt a copy down for you.
Had a nice swim today, the surf was huge and the beach and the pool were closed, but like most everyone there just ignored the sign and went on in anyway, beautiful temperature!
Have a great Saturday everybody, hope it is a lovely day for you all. \:)/ Enjoy! Off to cook a couple of curries!

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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by Finley » 07 Mar 2015 09:59

Morning all. Thanks Slingster - had a great evening out - fab food, great company and managed not to get bladdered :) I'm off to Cyprus for 2 weeks in July - should be hot 8-) Macchs - your swim sounds great ;)?

Have to go shopping for ingredients I forgot to get yesterday for friend's birthday meal (scotch bonnet chillies) so best sort myself out. Hope it's a good day for all xxx
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Post by aprilstart » 07 Mar 2015 10:56

Morning mostlys. Hope all well and chugging along.
Finley, Cyprus, sunshine ooh.... At this point of the year it seems impossible that you could ever do without a hat let alone swim in the sea.... Are scotch bonnets the lethally hot chillies? What are you cooking up?
So much for 15c promised, it's blustery and cold here in the Midlands although sun is trying to peek through.
Slingy, ejector seat, there's an idea. Am seriously tempted to crush strong drugs up in his food, he has that man thing of not taking the bloody painkillers WHY??? Me and Bert are a team of two here, hiding out in the shed with our drugs of choice- bonios for bert, chickweed for me. Well done on the teeth thing, I share your phobia of the dentist. Child of the 1960s when the school dentists were paid per filling, with extra bonus if they didn't use anaesthetic. :D your dentist sounds almost human actually worrying you might have pain.
Cowboy, the mention of campfires and beans makes me think of blazing saddles film, sadly I don't think the charmingest of charmers would tempt any " birds" out for a night of bean munching. You're right, I'm in a far better place than I was last April, long may it last. I remember you getting into green smoothies last year, are you still making them? How lovely to be in the mountains.
Talking of smoothies, mad maccs mickey was sooooo hot in 9 1/2 weeks. Haven't ( and won't be) watching 50 shades but that movie was .. " goosy". He has ruined his face . Better crack on with something productive, happy dry weekend all xxxx

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