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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by Winkler » 23 Sep 2019 07:29

I suppose you cud be a specialist taste Danny? 😂
I wonder what difference brexit would make?
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Post by DannyD » 23 Sep 2019 08:31

Apparently the paper work of organising a British national to work in Corfu, will be horrendous when Britain is no longer in the EU.
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Post by Winkler » 23 Sep 2019 23:30

Work permit or visa perhaps?
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 23 Sep 2019 23:38

Glad you had a good holiday Danny, Albania sounds fascinating, never thought of it as a holiday destination before. ;)? Good luck with getting back on the sober trail. <:)>

Sober today, it was a glorious day weatherwise, but I've just checked the forecast and it's heavy rain/thunder storms for the next couple of weeks, doubt I'll be able to get my steps in, will have to pluck up the courage to go to the gym. :?

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Post by DannyD » 24 Sep 2019 04:52

Winkler wrote:
23 Sep 2019 23:30
Work permit or visa perhaps?
Probably. I was quietly astounded that anyone should plan a major move like this, after a few days holiday.

I envy your weather Ruby. I was bussing last night and got totally soaked. I'm waking up with a chesty cough. This morning I was supposed to be meeting friends for a gentle stroll, but it's still quite heavy rain I can hear.

Day one sober yesterday \/ , despite meeting up with a very happy bunch from work, celebrating a colleague who is leaving. It's a mindset which I need to get back into.
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Post by DannyD » 25 Sep 2019 08:29

And a day two sober \/

My sister is still with me. I love her to bits, but she can be infuriatingly know-all.
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 25 Sep 2019 22:24

DannyD wrote:
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And a day two sober \/

My sister is still with me. I love her to bits, but she can be infuriatingly know-all.
Well done Danny, I have the same with my sister, love her to bits but can't stay longer than a couple of days.

3/0 so far this week.

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Post by DannyD » 25 Sep 2019 22:42

Thanks for that Ruby. I was just toying with the idea of a drink. Water it is though.
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Post by DannyD » 28 Sep 2019 00:49

Middle of the night. My house sitter (sister) has packed up and left to drive home. She's got a long shunt all round the M 25, which fills us ( I hate this drive too) with horror. Hopefully, at this time of night, the roads will be clear. Meanwhile, my dog is bereft that they've (her two dogs) gone without him. I think her male collie bullies my dog - he's very subdued and depressed when the three dogs are together, but at the moment he just thinks he's missing out on a walk. I am incredibly grateful to my sister, but we both live on our own, and I think we both find it difficult to share personal space.

Looking forward, I can grasp my diet and get everything back on track. I've not been making healthy eating (or drinking) choices.
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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by Ruby&Tilly » 07 Oct 2019 23:19

Hi Danny, just wondering how the mostly is going? I've not been doing great, 5/2 last week but sober today, hoping for a 6/1 this week.

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Post by Spats » 08 Oct 2019 06:56

Hey Ruby- 5/2 is pretty good in the great scheme of things ;)?
Mostly sober last month, looking for 31/31 this month, I’ve done it before so I know I can do it again ;)

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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 03 Nov 2019 03:01

Hi mostlies, how's it going? Are you still here Danny? My units were stacking up so I'm trying for sober November.
But hoping to join yous in December.

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Post by Spats » 03 Nov 2019 06:19

Come on Ruby, you know you can do this, we’re with you all the way ;)?

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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 03 Nov 2019 14:39

Cheers spats, I'm doing okay, the fags are harder but I'm on day 5 for both.
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Post by Spats » 03 Nov 2019 21:54

(::) (::) \:)/ keep going Ruby. Let’s kick them both out of our lives ;)?

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Post by DannyD » 14 Nov 2019 09:25

I'm here. I've been mostly drinking/drunk for what seems like forever. Now I need to get back in the Mostly Sober mindset again. When I first joined, once I got going, I sailed through to a year. One day at a time.
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Post by Jjjj of Old » 14 Nov 2019 12:02

DannyD wrote:
14 Nov 2019 09:25
I'm here. I've been mostly drinking/drunk for what seems like forever. Now I need to get back in the Mostly Sober mindset again. When I first joined, once I got going, I sailed through to a year. One day at a time.
It's great to see you, D \:)/ Although I'm sorry to hear about the drinking <:)>

Getting back into the right mindset is difficult, isn't it? Much more difficult than we assume. That's what makes alcohol and a drink habit such miserable things. After a period of sobriety and then a slip, it feels like giving up again should be easy. We've achieved sobriety before, so we know we can do it again... but... but... but... it's just always so much harder than we imagine it will be.

That's the demonic pull of the addictive substance that says to us: "Drink me, drink me - it's ok, just give up on today and start afresh tomorrow. I promise I'll leave you alone tomorrow. You'll probably find far more interesting things to do with your time (all those things you've been wanting to do for ages), and you'll be too busy to miss me. So how can it hurt to spend tonight with me - one last farewell?"

But the demon lies and the demon has claws - it is too physically and psychologically addictive to leave us alone the following day, or rather for us to leave it alone. For me, the merest hint of a hangover has always sent me straight back into its flea-bitten, hairy and unforgiving paws: both the physical withdrawal and the psychological dependence send me in search of the hair of the fabled dog. And then that's another day and night lost, and on it goes...

But this is one mangy old dog that deserves to be put down - to put us out of its misery, rather than it.

So, getting sober again feels like it should be as easy as riding a bicycle: a trick one never forgets. And we don't ever forget - not really. But it's not anywhere near as easy as getting on a bike again. It's always as hard (to begin with) as it was the first time. We've done it before so we know we can do it again, but although we know the theory, it takes patience, perseverance and practise before we can build up speed and do it again without thinking: we need to learn again how to keep our balance, and how to pedal while keeping the handlebars straight. And I guess that's why it's difficult to find and keep hold of the right sober mindset again: it's a trick we know we CAN repeat; it's just a question of remembering how, and then keeping at it until it becomes our physical and mental default setting.

I think that getting sober is more like writing a novel. Once you've written your first, writing a second feels like it should be easy: it's been done before, so it can be done again. And it CAN - but only if we don't forget or underestimate the time and effort it took to write the first one, because that's what it took - time and effort. And to write the second will take just the same.

But the flip side of this is that writing a novel - be it the first, second or fifteenth - is also deeply rewarding: it's fun, it's challenging, it teaches the writer a lot about him-or-herself; it's creative, and it adds much colour to the life of the writer - even if nobody else in the world ever really notices those colours (or reads the book). It's just a brilliant, exhilarating and energising thing to throw oneself into - even though it's also hard work. And most novels prove to be a bit more expertly-plotted and well-written than the previous one.

And that's exactly what getting sober again is like, I think. (Except, of course, that it is a 'novel' that one should never finish. Its 'happy ending' is found within the very act of writing it ;) )

And you've already made a start on finding the right mindset because you're back here! So: don't underestimate the challenge of doing it again, D, but do also keep focusing on how rewarding it will ultimately become, however difficult it initially seems ;)? <:)> <:)>
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Re: Mostly Sober

Post by Cowboy » 14 Nov 2019 14:42

Can't offer more than what our friend JJ has to say there DD. Trying to detach myself from the drinking person that I have become over the last couple of months - and this after a full year of sobriety. This addiction is hard and there is no explanation as to why it has its claws so deep in me. I thought I was stronger than that but I'm not. I'm not a lost cause though.

Just offering support and comfort to an old friend in these parts.

Take care DD. Take care. Cowboy.
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Post by DannyD » 14 Nov 2019 18:49

Wow. Thanks Mark. What a supportive and understanding post. <:)>

Cowboy - i've been awol for a while - but you had been doing so well. Thanks for your encouragement. Let's get this cracked together? <:)>

I've followed my own advice. Came out of work at 5.30 and headed straight for fast food - KFC. Haven't had that in years. It was ok. More to the point, I wasn't thinking of drinking all the way home. And now I'm in, the doors are shut, I'm feeling pleasantly weary and I'm sober with no intention of drinking anything stronger than water.
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 14 Nov 2019 21:45

Lovely to see you back Danny, hope you can keep to the mostly. It appears that sobriety gets harder at each attempt. <:)>

<:)> Cowboy, never forget how well you were doing, you'll get there again. ;)?

Ruby xx
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