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Willy, plucking up the courage to go to your first AA meeting is so brave, well done you (::) Let us know how it went?

Dab, I'm so glad you stayed around - and I'd be interested to hear what you think of 'Dry' - no rush of course.

I've just seen 'The Complaints' is in my local library, according to the online catalogue, so I'm hot-footing it over there right now.Enjoy your day x

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First AA meeting went well. After trying and failing for a decade to be a "moderate" drinker, walking into AA was more relief than stress. After a long time of having my butt kicked by booze, it seems that I've recently won a bout or two. The secret? Don't let it out of the bottle!

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Willy (or do you prefer Steve?), that's great, I'm so pleased for you.Let us know how you get on.

I got 'The Complaints' out of the library and am looking forward to starting it this evening.It's going to be strange reading Ian Rankin without Rebus though!

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' happy to answer to either Caroline. I'd not read Ian Rankin before The Complaints so I was not disappointed by a new main character. I did hear about the book during a radio interview that touched on the minor uproar following the disappearance of Rebus. Peaceful reading, Caroline; I hope you are doing well.

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I read a great book the other week, tesco special called the Guardian Angels Journal, fantastic quirky and relevant to all the "demons" that we face, addiction and lack of self esteem - cant praise it enough, have since struggled to find something that interests me though - so would appreciate ideas!
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Ok, folks, a slight change of tack, I'm dedicating tonight's song excerpt to our own special frenemy, the Evil Alcohol Fairy:

And did you think this fool could never win
Well look at me, I'm coming back again
I got a taste of love in a simple way
And if you need to know while I'm still standing you just fade away

Don't you know I'm still standing better than I ever did
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
I'm still standing after all this time
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind

I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah
I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah


Don't know what came over me there, just have the tune in my head!
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Hey Digga,

BE great for me, hated the idea of the AA, all that public self-disclosure, yikes! :shock: Also, initially didn't feel I was alcoholic enough, ha ha. I've read a bit about AA and have mixed views.

There are no guarantees, but you'll get there, Digga, I can hear it in your words. ;)?

Keep on fishing. I guess you've read Goodbye Mr Wonderful... Some fishing in that, and a lot of bitter laughs.

Lib.

PS - who's the emperor?
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Yes, I thought it was great.

By Chris McCully - he's a poet and academic, so very nifty with the old words, and v descriptive writing about the 3 day benders he went on, waking up in various seedly locales while all the time thinking of himself as the witty life and soul of the party.

I think he wrote it as diary entries, then kind of edited together, so it's all really vivid, and you hear his thinking change as he goes on.

I am a Kindle gal, and this book is on Kindle - it's great when you can read books like that discreetly on an e-reader.

Um, there's not too much about mullets, per se, as I recall; but it is his one great hobby and you can feel the peace he gets from that.
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if you're really gonna live in the trees, you might like "copse" by kate evans.

out of print now i think, but a good read. anyone here from newbury?!

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Hello Caroline,

I finished Dry this weekend. After reading "Goodbye Mr. Wonderful" and "Dry" I can't say that memoirs written by alcohol abusers are enjoyable but they do intensely illuminate the dark path of addiction more so than any health sciences or government publications. I don't believe that "addict" is a static category but a unique personal path (with one common destination).

These memoirs have powerfully affected my perspective on my alcohol problem. I can change direction now or I can wait until things really become a mess. Thank you for the recommendation and hope you are doing well.

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Hey Willy, you sound in a positive frame of mind - good for you. I'm doing great thanks, just finished my first week sober in quite a while and feeling better every day.

I had to give up on The Complaints though, it was just too bleak for me.Maybe it's because I'm so used to Rebus, I couldn't quite get used to someone else calling the shots, so to speak!

All I seem to want to read at the moment are books that make me laugh, so I'm back with Bill Bryson yet again, 'Notes From A Small Island' this time.It's interesting to see an American's take on the UK, especially when he's describing places I've been to myself.

I hope you're ok - good luck and good reading. :D

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Caroline,

Sorry that The Complaints didn't hold your attention. It does get less bleak; actually triumphant later. I am reading Caroline Knapp's book now. I find it a less dramatic than Dry, but more introspective and more personally useful. A couple of her perspectives speak to me and my situation:

"An addict is someone who seeks physical solutions to emotional or spiritual problems"

"Most alcoholics are yearning for something, something outside the self that will provide relief, solace, and well-being"

Thanks for the recommendation.

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Hi Willy, I saw your post on the 'I won't drink to-day' thread - great to see you're still around and doing ok.

I often dip into Caroline Knapp's book, she does some really useful one-liners that I like to keep in mind.One of my favourites is "Less drama, more laundry" - short and to the point!

I'm halfway through a real find of a book by a Scottish writer, Des Dillon - 'My Epileptic Lurcher'.It's funny, poignant, honest and so true to life.I'm trying to read it very slowly because I really don't want it to finish - I love it when you find a book that you just want to go on forever!

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Hey Dab, 'nice to see you - I read 'We need to talk about Kevin' a while ago and couldn't put it down, though some parts were really disturbing.Brilliant piece of writing though.A film of the book is due out on general release later this year, with Tilda Swinton playing the lead, which sounds like inspired casting, I can just picture her as Kevin's mother.

Happy reading!

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I found this poem on another site that hits home, I don't think it has been posted before.

You know who I am, you’ve called me your friend
Wishes of misery and heartache I send
I want only to see that you’re brought to your knees
I’m the devil inside you, I am your disease.

I’ll invade all your thoughts, I’ll take hostage your soul
I’ll become your new master, in total control
I’ll maim your emotions, I’ll run the whole game
Till your entire existence is crippled with shame

When you call me I come, sometimes in disguise
Quite often I’ll take you by total surprise
But take you I will, and just as you’ve feared
I’ll want only to hurt you, with no mercy spared

If you have your own family, Ill see its destroyed
I’ll steal every pleasure in life you’ve enjoyed
I’ll not only hurt you, I’ll kill if I please
I’m your worst living nightmare, I am your disease

I bring self destruction, but still you can’t tell
I’ll sweep you through heaven, then drop you in hell
I’ll chase you forever, wherever you go
And then when I catch you, you won’t even know

I’ll sometimes lay silent, just waiting to strike
What’s yours becomes mine, cuz I take what I like
I’ll take all you own and I won’t care who sees
I’m your constant companion… I am your disease

If you have any honor, I’ll strip it away
You’ll lose all your hope and forget how to pray
I’ll leave you in darkness, while blindly you stare
I’ll reduce you to nothing, and won’t even care

So, don’t take for granted my powers sublime
I’ll bend and I’ll break you, time after time
I’ll crumble your world with the greatest of ease
I’m that madman inside you…I am your disease

But today I’m real angry…you want to know why?
I let this treatment center full of Addicts entirely slip by
How did I lose you? Where did I go wrong?

One minute I had you…then next you were gone

You just can’t dismiss all the good times we’ve shared
When you were alone…wasn’t it I who appeared?
When you sold those possessions you knew you would need
Wasn’t I the first one who stepped in and agreed

Now look at you bastards, you’re all thinking clear
You escaped with your lives when you found your way here
Only fools think they’re winners when admitting defeat
It’s what you must say when you’re claiming that seat

Go ahead and surrender, if that’s what you choose
But, I’m not giving up. cuz I can’t stand to lose
So stand in your groups and support hand in hand
Better choices will save you…leaving me to be damned

Well, be damned all you people seeking treatment each week
Be damned inner strength, however unique
Be damned all your sayings, be damned your cliches
Be damned every addict, who back to me strays

For I know it will happen, I’ve seen it before
Those who love misery will crawl back for more
So take comfort in knowing, I’m waiting right here
But next time around, you’d just better beware

You think that you’re stronger or smarter this time’
There isn’t a mountain or hill you can’t climb
Well if that’s what you’re thinkin, you ain’t learned a thing
I’ll still knock you silly if you step back in my ring

But you say you’ve surrendered, so what can I do?
It’s so sad in a way, I had big plans for you
Creating your nightmare for me was a dream
I’m sure gonna miss you…we made quite a team

So please don’t forget me, I won’t forget you
I’ll stand by your side watching all that you do
I’m ready and waiting, so call if you please
I won’t let you forget me…I am your disease
It's been a while since i could stand on my own two feet again

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This is great...Realy duz hit home... ;)?
I Have a Guardian Angel in heaven... I call him DADDY BEAR. I AM NOW 10 YEARS DRY AND LOVING IT,SO PROUD OF ME ;-)
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Hello all,

I have just finished reading the Other Boleyn Girl by Philippa Gregory, fantastic read, can highly recommend it. I have just started the Queens Fool by her and am already hooked.
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Hi Fiz,
that is the book that got me back into reading!
You would enjoy the pillars of the earth if you like historical fiction.. i couldnt put it down!!
I've just started an eight book series called the outlander series, where a woman from the 1940's, a nurse during the war, goes to scotland with her returning husband solder, and on a walk in the highlands, she walks throught some rocks and right into the 1740's... great great books... double time traveling life.
Have your read Labyrinth by Kate Mosse? You would like that too!! And scepulcur the follow up.

Happy reading. I am on the second of the eight book set now...kind of get drawn into it all... true escapism... freedom at its best.
Love to you fiz... lots of it,
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Hi Zelda,

I love historical fiction too. I did read Pillars of the Earth a long time ago and thought it was one of the best books I had ever read. I like the sound of those outlander books, I will have to look them up they sound like my sort of thing. I will also look up the Labyrinth, not read that either, thanks for the recommendations.

Love and strength to you Zelda, it's nice to see you. <:)>
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Just finished "The War Of Art" by David Pressfield. Great motivational book!
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