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Post by TrueState » 28 Mar 2019 20:40

Maybe you just have to accept this is gonna be a bit of an ongoing internal struggle Pork and just make sure you prepare.
Prepare for not drinking, either completely or most days with making sure you have all the alternatives with you, AF beers if you like those, busy schedule, fantastic food etc. Prepare for drinking but maybe not as much as you might have done back in the day so to speak Prepare for it all to get a bit out of hand and the drinking continuing beyond your holiday and how you will get yourself back on track.
All that's left then is to get excited about your holiday and spending time with your mate.

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Post by Pork » 29 Mar 2019 08:13

Aaarrrhhh 😎👍🦄

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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 12 May 2019 22:11

I'm seeing my psychiatrist on Tuesday, very worried how it's gonna go but planning on having a drink (6 units) that evening. I don't get any negative side effects from this much wine as long as I stick to it. Hopefully, I'll stay over at Jim's and he will have a few drinks too. Will probably go walking on Wednesday as the weather is so nice.

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Post by martha » 13 May 2019 20:09

I hope things go ok tomorrow for you, Ruby, with the psychiatrist.
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Post by SoberBoots » 13 May 2019 20:42

Best of luck tomorrow
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 13 May 2019 22:55

Thanks Martha & Sally, I've got a long list of questions I want to ask the b'stard (psychiatrist). I've found an email address for another one of my ex psychiatrists and thinking of emailing him about the Ultradian bipolar cycling I get as it only lasts a day (that's why they all think it's borderline personality disorder). It may backfire but if it doesn't go well tomorrow I may tell the psychiatrist to go f**k himself. I think a reference from him may be worse than useless.

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Post by SoberBoots » 14 May 2019 13:02

Would he be more co-operative if you focused on the medication you find helpful and want to have, rather than getting into a debate about diagnosis?

Sorry if that's an umhelpful thought!
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 14 May 2019 20:20

Cheers Sally, he refused to discuss anything on my list, he was annoyed but agreed to lower my olanzapine slowly, probably because he had a student in to impress, I'm seeing him in 2 months, I'm taking an advocate next time, all I asked was the criteria I have that gave me a BPD diagnosis and he wouldn't look at the ultradian cycling information that I googled.

I've had my 6 units and now on the AF cider.

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Post by martha » 14 May 2019 20:47

Ruby&Tilly wrote:
14 May 2019 20:20
Cheers Sally, he refused to discuss anything on my list, he was annoyed but agreed to lower my olanzapine slowly, probably because he had a student in to impress, I'm seeing him in 2 months, I'm taking an advocate next time, all I asked was the criteria I have that gave me a BPD diagnosis and he wouldn't look at the ultradian cycling information that I googled.

I've had my 6 units and now on the AF cider.

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Hi Ruby. It seems so frustrating. I wondered about advocacy so that's a good idea for next time. Hope you're feeling ok xx
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 14 May 2019 21:24

Hi Martha, to top it off I had a very stressful time with my befriendee, it's really not in my remit to counsel her, so I've given her the crisis number and will speak to my boss tomorrow.

As for the psychiatrist, I'm playing the long game, need to keep the bastard on side til then, all I want from the twat is my driver's licence and my pip assessment.

Feeling ok, may phone the samaritans later and have a good moan, already moaned to my friend and sister and Jim.

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Post by martha » 14 May 2019 21:32

What a tough day, Ruby. You're handling it all well.

Samaritans is always a good call <:)>
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 14 May 2019 22:07

Thanks Martha, I may regret this but I've just emailed another ex psychiatrist to try and get a diagnosis of Ultradian Cycling Bipolar. I'm past caring what that arsehole has to say.

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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 14 May 2019 23:31

Ruby&Tilly wrote:
13 May 2019 22:55
Thanks Martha & Sally, I've got a long list of questions I want to ask the b'stard (psychiatrist). I've found an email address for another one of my ex psychiatrists and thinking of emailing him about the Ultradian bipolar cycling I get as it only lasts a day (that's why they all think it's borderline personality disorder). It may backfire but if it doesn't go well tomorrow I may tell the psychiatrist to go f**k himself. I think a reference from him may be worse than useless.

Ruby xx
Just got an email back from Prof Ebmeier (it only took 10 minutes for the reply), he's given me the email of a Professor in Glasgow who specialises in Bipolar and hopefully I'll be able to get a second opinion from him. I'll probably speak to someone in the advocacy service before I contact him just in case there's clash of interest, but I'm really hopeful that I'm getting somewhere.

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Post by SoberBoots » 15 May 2019 07:59

That's brilliant Ruby, and what a great way to approach it. You've stayed on track and come up with a strategy, instead of diving into a bottle (::)
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Post by Ruby&Tilly » 15 May 2019 11:34

Thanks for all your support Sally, it really means a lot. ;)?

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Post by Luna_ » 16 Jul 2019 13:24

Hi all - I am not quite sure where to put this, but I felt a need to remind myself - and maybe also be reminded by others - on how to get through those times when that little voice starts wondering if it would be a good idea to get a bottle - or when those sudden and intense cravings arise. Maybe this also could go on the "triggers" thread, but no matter.

My 10-piece armoury looks like this:

1. L-Glutamine. When cravings strike I have half a teaspoon of it in a glass of something and, placebo or not, it seems to help. I think drinking anything would help actually, but I have read that L-Glutamine can help with reducing the desire to drink - so I have a big bag of it, ordered from a bodybuilding website, actually.

2. Valerian root tablets. Expensive, but help those shaky periods - and the anxiety attacks that I get and choose to call PAWS.

3. If possible. Have a brief lie-down and breathe through it.

4. If having a headache, have an asprin or paracet or whatever. Pay attention to this one - headaches have been one of my most powerful triggers. That old "for medicinal purposes" dodge..

5. Drink a huge cup of herbal tea, or whatever is handy (not made of black tea leaves) - lemon and ginger, green tea with a squirt of lemon juice, heck, I even make my own out of dried orange and lemon peel, mixed with some wild sourgrass (I think it's called sorrel in english). Just whatever you fancy - or least dislike. Get tum filled with a nice warming drink and the desire for alcohol abates.

6. Cup of stock or thin salty soup.

7. If possible, take a short walk outdoors. If at work or needing to stay indoors, go tidy something. Symbolic of tidying up life.

8. Write a to do list, and do something on it, then cross it out - tada - that wouldn't have happened if that bottle was half-way down my neck by now. Re-potting a neglected plant is a good trick, or (if at home office) - clearing out some paperwork.

9. Call someone. Even if it's a shop to enquire about something you have been considering to buy/get repaired/hire. Make plans for something - meeting someone, painting a wall etc. Visualise the choice between that and becoming incapacitated within the next hour or so. Or having to hide from people.

10. If all else fails - open the cupboard/fridge and tell yourself you can have whatever you fancy, and as much as you want - as long as you do not go and get a bottle.


Of course, it's different for everybody, but this is the list I have in my top drawer, and pull out when I need it. Sometimes I can't even think straight enough to pick one, so I shut my eyes and point somewhere.


I never thought it could be such a long long and hard process to develop a serious drinking problem - and an even longer and harder process to get out of it. I do regret not being able to enjoy a G&T in the sun, or a nice glass of wine, but those days are long gone, and it's my own fault, at the end of the day. I played with fire and got burnt, big-time.


Please post here if you are considering to drink. I am for some reason struggling today and will be around here. :\:
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Post by Shadowlad » 16 Jul 2019 14:54

Luna_ wrote:
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Please post here if you are considering to drink. I am for some reason struggling today and will be around here.
Hello Luna <:)>

Just saw this post, you are doing the right thing being here if you are struggling today. That is a good and insightful list you have there. Do you have it printed out and on your wall in your home ? Also on a laminated card for your handbag ? It may just help ground you if those intense cravings come along. I hope its helping you being here too, because we really do understand where you are at and also have great faith in you that you can get through your struggle. It will pass and you will feel peaceful again. Take care lovely lady ;)? <:)>
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Post by Shadowlad » 16 Jul 2019 14:56

Also have you made some of that fiery ginger drink recently to enjoy in the sun ? ;)?
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Post by Luna_ » 16 Jul 2019 15:20

Thanks shadow <:)> <:)> <:)>
Ah, that ginger drink.
Ironically, the Luscolms is only found in the alcohol-shop, which is out of bounds for me - and is also 1 hours drive away, so not going there until I next have to be physically in the office.

But I do have a piece of ginger and have been intending to put on some of my own ginger-beer. It takes about 3 days to get a fizz on it - but in emergencies, a soda-stream can be used as a cheat.

I'm all over BE today - but I think I'm having a PAWS day. Thumping headache, stomach-ache, phantom hangover, shakes and general anxiety - triggering some serious booze cravings. These kind of days have often been my downfall, but I don't want that today.

I will bunk off some remaining work (I'm working from home) and go for a walk - and when I get back it will be too late to go to booze shop and somehow, that does take the pressure off. I don't know why days like this pop up, but I think we all have them. I guess someday, booze will just become like smoking for an ex-smoker. Just something that other people do, no biggie.

More of these to you <:)> <:)> <:)>
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Post by Topcat » 16 Jul 2019 15:43

Luna_ wrote:
16 Jul 2019 15:20
I will bunk off some remaining work (I'm working from home) and go for a walk - and when I get back it will be too late to go to booze shop and somehow, that does take the pressure off.
Sounds like a good plan Luna <:)>
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