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Withdrawal / Kindling

Post by the fluid » 08 Feb 2008 22:31

Hi Board

I'm not sure what everyone elses experiences are, what your backgrounds are or what your drinking history is. I've tried for 4 days to stop drinking after over 20 years of heavy drinking. This is consistent heavy drinking but holding your life together stuff, weekly drinking to excess with or without company, most weekends binging, during the week beer, wine and whiskey is my bag. Making sure I can have a whiskey even when its gone 3. When I socialise I drink, I don't do singles.

Anyway, I stopped for 4 days straight.
I've had insomnia, night sweats, nervousness, boredom, been scared beyond belief, had people take the piss as they think I'm suddenly anti-social, weird, why you doing that. Lots of emotions.

I enjoyed the sweats hoping I was coming out of something or into something forgotton

I've just broken my 4 days and am drinking. I feel like I've left a good place that I didn't have time to enjoy properly. I think I'll probably sleep tonight but I also know I was close to something new.

I hope to stop again after Saturday for at least the same time but thinkI'll be back in again

this is very difficult

Andy

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Post by Andy » 08 Feb 2008 22:40

yep fluid

pretty much identical story (and symptoms), so will have to start again tommorow, or not, we'll see! good luck with you're journey mate, everyone else on here seems to be at a place where they see a need for change, whats the answer?

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Post by Cheryl » 08 Feb 2008 22:57

MARSHMAIDEN!
Im on line if you want to talk....

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Post by Cheryl » 08 Feb 2008 22:59

Andy,I'll talk to you tommorrow,go to 'recovering alcoholics' on here....

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Post by Anna » 09 Feb 2008 01:10

Fluid,
ILovely to see you here.
Anna.

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Post by Chiara » 09 Feb 2008 17:14

Hi All,

Not sure how much you were drinking before giving up but to go 4 days if you haven't cut down first is a massive feat in my view. There is nothing worse than withdrawal! I have given up before but lately have found it much easier if I cut right down first only buying the amount I 'need' to drink that night (reducing by a unit each night). If I need to I pour away the excess before I start and lose will power. So whilst this has helped me cut right down to even 1 unit a night a times with no withdrawal as I've tappered over time I still haven't managed to completely give up and once or twice a week go back to my 'normal' amount of up to a bottle a night. So haven't cracked it but figure overall it's got to be an improvement as I'm having less units. Just wish it didn't have the hold on me..I was doing well last night for instance having had 250 ml of wine and when my partner asked if I wanted any more I said no then he gave me a surprise bottle he had got me and having no will power I drank it...

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Post by Cheryl » 09 Feb 2008 18:21

Hi Chiara,
Welcome to this ever changing board!
Well done for your progress so far..its admirable that you can cut down to such a drastic degree..you will have times when will power fails (maybe your boyfriend needs to know you are trying to cut down) but as you have quite rightly done it 'slowly' at least the withdrawal symptoms are not so harsh..or even evident now...
Good luck in your quest! Keep reading the posts and posting yourself...It really does help...

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Post by Jan » 10 Feb 2008 11:59

Hi Fluid,
Are you there? Are you OK?

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Post by the fluid » 10 Feb 2008 15:12

Hi Jan

I'm OK thanks - got wasted last night. Am going to try going dry again next week..How are you?

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Post by the fluid » 10 Feb 2008 15:17

Chiara wrote:Hi All,

Not sure how much you were drinking before giving up but to go 4 days if you haven't cut down first is a massive feat in my view. There is nothing worse than withdrawal! I have given up before but lately have found it much easier if I cut right down first only buying the amount I 'need' to drink that night (reducing by a unit each night). If I need to I pour away the excess before I start and lose will power. So whilst this has helped me cut right down to even 1 unit a night a times with no withdrawal as I've tappered over time I still haven't managed to completely give up and once or twice a week go back to my 'normal' amount of up to a bottle a night. So haven't cracked it but figure overall it's got to be an improvement as I'm having less units. Just wish it didn't have the hold on me..I was doing well last night for instance having had 250 ml of wine and when my partner asked if I wanted any more I said no then he gave me a surprise bottle he had got me and having no will power I drank it...
If I'm out I'll drink up to 5 pints strong lager then hit the large whiskys till closing, then have whisky when I get in (like I need it). If I'm its a bottle of wine and then whiskey with water

I often hit a plain where I don't seem to be getting any more drunk, it just gets later

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Post by Jan » 10 Feb 2008 15:26

Hello Fluid,
I'm glad you're OK. I'm OK too!
Can I make a silly suggestion? I am worried about you going cold turkey. it could be a little bit dangerous for your health. I'm no expert but I have been told to cut down slowly rather than just stop. I know the idea of being totally clean and sober is nice but I think you should slow down, slow down some more, and then stop.

Try having just one or two pints a day; then one or two pints pint every other day - and thus slowly wean your body away from the booze. You will find it easier in the long run. Have you the patience to try?

Cheryl, you know more about this than me. Any ideas to help Fluid?

I'm glad you are here!
Cheers
Jan

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Post by Tessa » 10 Feb 2008 15:29

Hi Fluid
Have you also tried the Recovering Alcoholics section here started by Cheryl, its really useful, as are all the other postings, but the combination might help as i see you were on 4 days of no alcohol and Cheryls advice is very good and i am sure it would help you. You had a relapse, and thats ok, it happens. I dont know what cold turkey is like because i havent experienced it, although all of us on this board have a problem with alcohol, we all have different habits/experiences. As far as i have read though, cold turkey is not a good idea health-wise. My advice right now is to gather some guidance from Cheryl...and keep posting anywhere you feel comfortable with on the forum.
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Post by Cheryl » 11 Feb 2008 12:03

Thanks guys,missed this one!
Fluid,
I am not qualified to answer all your problems but I have my own experiences of drinking heavily/withdrawal/cold turkey..you name it!
The girls are right when they say to do this on your own is DANGEROUS..
You need to see your GP first,A long standing heavy drinker's body and brain NEED the stuff to function at all,so going cold turkey is really not a good idea and the chance of relapse is really high!
If you can't talk to your Dr then cut down at first...I know this is easier said than done,and I couldn't do it that way, for me it had to be all or nothing,but I did it with help of medication from the dr... (After suffering the side effects of going 'cold turkey')
You only have to take the medication for about a week...just while the de-tox is kicking in,it really helps with withdrawal although you still need willpower!
YOU have got to want to do this,before any progress can be made..
If you need any specific questions answered please keep posting..I'll TRY and help all I can....
And trust me on this one...your quality of life is so dramatically improved when you stop that you'll wonder why you didn't do it years ago!

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Post by Chiara » 17 Feb 2008 18:56

Dear all,
Since my last post I went to the New ways clinic in London, I had an (expensive) bio reduction therapy treatment that took 2 hours. I would urge you to look it up if you are serious about giving up easily, with no withdrawal. As I was told that cutting down wasn't necessary before the treatment I went mad and really, really enjoyed it - have never drunk so much wine as it was going to be my last. 2 hours & quite a bit of money later I left and had no cravings. It's 6 days on now and I haven't drunk once and have had no withdrawal, I feel free and very, very positive - this is easy. I have my life back and am finally out of the vicious circle I have been in for over 10 years. Look it up on the web if you are interested. I don't work for the guy who invented the treatment btw! :)
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Post by Tessa » 17 Feb 2008 19:25

Hi Chiara
Thanks for posting that info, very interesting. Great news that you are now off the booze without any withdrawal symptoms etc. Congrats!
I am fairly sure that your post was maybe deleted because they did state that on that part of the site, no further postings would be kept unless they are specifically to do with Kudzu, so that would be the most likely reason. I would be surprised if they deleted it from here, as thats what they gave us this forum for, to share information etc, so it should be fine.
Keep posting if you have any other things to share about your new life without alcohol....we could all do with as much motivation as possible.
Tessa
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Post by Cheryl » 17 Feb 2008 19:32

Hi Chiara,
I don't know why your last posting was deleted,but now this ones here I'm sure it won't disappear!
Well I've never heard of this bio treatment,please enlighten us!Whatever it is I'm So pleased its worked for you,expensive or not! You will soon re-coup the money back in unspent 'bottles'...And your health and wellbeing....
Wont comment any more till you have explained this treatment...pleeese

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Post by Tessa » 17 Feb 2008 19:36

Hi Cheryl
just looked it up on the internet, she mentioned the name of the place so you can google it, not sure i am allowed to post websites here so i wont do that just in case. But it came up when i googled it. Very interesting, having a read of it now. I have done a thing called Bio-feedback before myself, and it is very similar, think thats why the name is similar. I used it for panic attacks though at the time.
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Post by Cheryl » 17 Feb 2008 19:55

Hi Tessa,Chiara,
Just found it ,very interesting! and nice to have a personal testimonial,I would be very interested in the no Smoking programme now,although expensive would be worth it if it works as advertised...

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Post by Jan » 17 Feb 2008 21:45

Hello everyone,

Chiara, I am fascinated by your news. I have looked it up on the 'net and am very very tempted to take a train up to London one day soon. I note that it is cheaper for two people to go together than one alone. Shall we plan a mass outing to London? (or Manchester?) The whole think sounds very positive albeit expensive. Will they let me do smoking and drinking on the same day I wonder? How long ago did you have your treatment? So many questions?

BTW I fell off the wagon again last night but still drank a lot less than I used to. However, I was violently ill this morning. I think my body is revolting in more ways than one.

Anyone fancy teaming up for a day trip to London?
Jan

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Post by Tobin » 18 Feb 2008 08:01

Chiara -

Your post about the treatment you received was removed from the Kudzu comments for a couple of reasons - firstly there are nearly 300 comments on that article now, so we decided to not allow any more comments that weren't regarding Kudzu, seeing as we've now opened the forum. A note was left in the comments to inform people of this policy.

Secondly, your post mentioned the name of the clinic you went to quite a few times, so it seemed like you were advertising - and believe me we get many attempted posts like that. My sincere apologies for the misunderstanding.

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