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Re: Detoxing Safely (Tapering Off)

Post by Action » 03 Dec 2018 23:48

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Action, it’s good to hear you’re taking stock of your situation and hopefully you will be able to taper successfully. I wouldn’t be too concerned speed of tapering, it’s more important that you do it gradually to be more successful. Glad you both got home safely ;)?
Hi Spats. Thanks. That was back in September thank goodness. It was before I decided to bite the bullet and cut out alcohol completely. First sober date was 20th September. Wow. When I look back to that point I can see how far I’ve come. ;)? <:)>
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Action wrote:
03 Dec 2018 23:48
Spats wrote:
03 Dec 2018 22:07
Action, it’s good to hear you’re taking stock of your situation and hopefully you will be able to taper successfully. I wouldn’t be too concerned speed of tapering, it’s more important that you do it gradually to be more successful. Glad you both got home safely ;)?
Hi Spats. Thanks. That was back in September thank goodness. It was before I decided to bite the bullet and cut out alcohol completely. First sober date was 20th September. Wow. When I look back to that point I can see how far I’ve come. ;)? <:)>
I read that yesterday and thought about pointing out to Spats how old the post was that she was replying to. But my overwhelming thought was: wow Action, look how much you've changed and how far you've come (::) (::) (::) (::) (::)
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Post by Spats » 04 Dec 2018 07:43

Oops sorry - should have checked back (w)

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Post by Action » 04 Dec 2018 08:25

Thank you Soberboots.
Please, please don’t apologise Spats, it gave me a massive boost of encouragement. Truely it did. <:)> <:)>
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Re: Detoxing Safely (Tapering Off)

Post by LucyLucyLu » 14 Dec 2018 11:43

Hi,

I know this isn't a very active site but as I'm tapering, it seemed the best place to post!

After several long stints AF (including the 100 day challenge), and being able to go for several days at a time AF... my drinking has escalated to crazy levels. As in - all day sipping. I was "getting away with it" because I rarely overtly seemed drunk and had plenty of sneaky tricks worked out. But I had come to accept that I was a "functioning alcoholic" (rather than a problem drinker as I'd seen myself before).

But then I got an awful fright a few weeks ago. When I didn't have any booze in the house to have one morning... and then the sweats started... and the shakes. Something must have shifted in my system because since then if I go even a few hours without, the withdrawal symptoms start. If I didn't have a drink first thing in the morning I would get physically sick. So I was no longer functioning. Just an alcoholic. With a real physical dependence. What an awful realisation to come to, but a real wakeup call.

I tried tapering last week but the symptoms were awful and I was having to pretend to hubby & kids that I had a stomach bug. (I've also had to tell colleagues that I am pre menopausal to explain the sweats!). I struggle with blood sugar levels that when down can make me shaky and weak so this was a handy excuse too. But it was just too much of a struggle and I couldn't give it my focus or go through the process properly with all the commitments I had at home.

So this week I was supposed to be away with work for 3 days and I knew I wouldn't have been able to function fully (I'm a trainer so there's nowhere to hide the shakes and sweats standing in front of people for 3 long days). So I postponed the work until the new year. But instead of staying home, I booked a little seaside cottage for 3 nights... so that I could taper in peace! Arrived Tuesday evening so I'm on day 3 now.

I kept a diary each day with a plan for the week. Basically with hourly watered down drinks the first day - was fine during the day but woke in the night with sweats & shakes so had a drink which got me back to sleep. Day 2 I didn't have my first until 10.30am and then spread it to every hour and a half... but then couldn't sleep at all, at 2am was still awake and so had a drink. But then yesterday day 3 was great! I had my first at noon and then every 2 hours... Allowed myself 2 full strength drinks before bed and sure enough it got me through the night without waking (10pm to 6am which is unheard of for me!). Day 4 today. Had a weak one at 11 and feeling ok.

I'm having white wine with sparkling water - was half/ half the first 2 days and now third/ two thirds. And it's useful to keep reminding myself that each one is medicinal... to ward off shakes etc and NOT for enjoyment or a buzz. If I feel a buzz coming I will step away and hold off for longer the next time.

I'm actually delighted & quite amazed at how quickly I'm managing to taper this time... especially as the symptoms had been so bad on previous attempts. Maybe the relaxed setting and no stress of having to hide the symptoms if & when they hit? I don't know, but either way I'm pleased that I'm nearly back on track.

Heading home this afternoon so need to make plans for the weekend. Am confident about being able to hold off til lunchtime each day without any visible symptoms. But have a pantomime and meal out tomorrow afternoon/ evening so may have to hide something in my bag in case symptoms hit.

I'm not anyone will read this, but it will be a handy record for me for the next few days and also to look back on.

Mouse x

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Post by Topcat » 14 Dec 2018 12:28

Hiya Mouse (missed your little red helmet) <:)>

Well done on the tapering. It's not easy at all. The temptation can be enormous to revert back to full measures again. All the best to you and please keep us informed of your progress <:)>
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Post by Trojan » 14 Dec 2018 13:21

Mouse,

The Harm Reduction Network has some good information on this approach. See http://hams.cc/

Tapering is notoriously hard to do, so hats off to you for taking this route. I tried it before, but ended up getting a prescription for detox meds instead.

Please do get medical help if you experience any severe symptoms. Take care <:)>
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Post by Shadowlad » 14 Dec 2018 18:09

Hello there Mouse :) <:)>

Just wanted to welcome you back and wish you the very best with your tapering. It is lovely to see you, please take good care of yourself and seek medical help if you feel you need it at all xx

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Post by Bluebottle » 15 Dec 2018 01:18

Hi mouse, :\: I don't know anything about tapering, just wanted to congratulate you on your progress, it sounds awful \:)/ \:)/ \:)/ , hope to catch up with you on the challenges. ;)?

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Post by LucyLucyLu » 17 Dec 2018 08:38

Topcat, Trojan, Shadow & Ruby,

Thanks all so much for replying and for the welcome backs & support! Really missed being on these threads and part of this lovey supportive and understanding community.

The weekend went ok - I was worried after doing so well with all my planning last week that it would be "wasted" and I'd revert. Mainly because I knew the weekend was going to be very busy with long periods out & about. In the past I've been "caught out" and had massive sweats or gone all woozy & shaky so I knew I had to ward these off. And I did! Stuck with the same volumes as Friday (didn't want to push it) on Saturday but stopped earlier (7pm). Had a little more than planned last night but just a bit.

Today as well as continuing with the tapering off, I'm going to up the health aspects. My skin is awful (suffer with psoriasis) due to stresses so I'll have a very hot seaweed bath. I'll go for a walk (we have a lovely wooded area near us which is very therapeutic to walk in) and most importantly for my mental state I need to finish off a report for a client that is now a week overdue.

Thanks again for the support, I really appreciate it.

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LucyLucyLu wrote:
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Topcat, Trojan, Shadow & Ruby,

Thanks all so much for replying and for the welcome backs & support! Really missed being on these threads and part of this lovey supportive and understanding community.

The weekend went ok - I was worried after doing so well with all my planning last week that it would be "wasted" and I'd revert. Mainly because I knew the weekend was going to be very busy with long periods out & about. In the past I've been "caught out" and had massive sweats or gone all woozy & shaky so I knew I had to ward these off. And I did! Stuck with the same volumes as Friday (didn't want to push it) on Saturday but stopped earlier (7pm). Had a little more than planned last night but just a bit.

Today as well as continuing with the tapering off, I'm going to up the health aspects. My skin is awful (suffer with psoriasis) due to stresses so I'll have a very hot seaweed bath. I'll go for a walk (we have a lovely wooded area near us which is very therapeutic to walk in) and most importantly for my mental state I need to finish off a report for a client that is now a week overdue.

Thanks again for the support, I really appreciate it.

Mouse x
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Post by Topcat » 18 Dec 2018 08:18

Well done Mouse (::) ;)?
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Post by Shadowlad » 20 Dec 2018 23:11

Hey Mouse, well done you're doing great ;)? <:)>
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Post by LucyLucyLu » 10 Jan 2019 21:42

Well the tapering didn't work.

Despite the early positive progress, as soon as I got home to the stresses and triggers I reverted. And the withdrawal symptoms intensified each time I tried to reduce over the last few weeks.

But I've just posted on the Road to Abstinence thread about my day today - bit the bullet and went to the doc, got some Librium... and more importantly some hope.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=521&p=862992#p862992

So my advice to anyone who is considering tapering... by all means try it (I would have preferred that to have worked without medical help), especially if you aren't drinking the volumes I was. Be careful with the symptoms... don't push it too far in case they get serious.

BUT then know when it's not working and get outside help. A scary thing to do and I put it off for way too long.

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Post by SoberBoots » 11 Jan 2019 10:00

LucyLucyLu wrote:
10 Jan 2019 21:42
Well the tapering didn't work.

Despite the early positive progress, as soon as I got home to the stresses and triggers I reverted. And the withdrawal symptoms intensified each time I tried to reduce over the last few weeks.

But I've just posted on the Road to Abstinence thread about my day today - bit the bullet and went to the doc, got some Librium... and more importantly some hope.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=521&p=862992#p862992

So my advice to anyone who is considering tapering... by all means try it (I would have preferred that to have worked without medical help), especially if you aren't drinking the volumes I was. Be careful with the symptoms... don't push it too far in case they get serious.

BUT then know when it's not working and get outside help. A scary thing to do and I put it off for way too long.

Mouse x
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Post by LucyLucyLu » 11 Jan 2019 20:10

Hey SB,

Yes it was one of the toughest things I've ever done. And the relief is immense. Not only are the meds working fully (just some very mild chills today), I've also told my business/ life coach (who I didn't know used to specialise in addiction - bonus!!), I told my adult daughter (who was the biggest worrier/ disapprover of my drinking) and my husband (who was strangely completely unaware of the severity).

So yes... I would recommend people try the tapering but then go for help if it doesn't work after a couple of attempts.

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Post by Trojan » 11 Jan 2019 20:35

Mouse, it's really good to hear how well this is working out for you :)

I had a very similar experience - repeated efforts to taper, leading to the decision to confide in my GP, and then a detox to manage everything safely. It was indeed a tough thing to do, but has ultimately opened the door to a new life :)
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Post by LucyLucyLu » 07 Feb 2019 09:06

Hi all & best of luck to those attempting to taper. Anyone has successfully achieved tapering it would be great if you posted here?

I just wanted to update the thread to say I'm 1 month sober today. Not after successfully tapering (see previous posts) but through using Librium to remove all withdrawal symptoms to allow a 4 day full detox (with absolutely NO discomfort).

Onwards & upwards! Feeling great without any "poison" in my system for the last month... and am now really looking forward to my first AF birthday, holiday, Christmas etc etc. It doesn't feel scary... it feels exciting!

Best of luck to all,

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Post by SoberBoots » 07 Feb 2019 09:29

LucyLucyLu wrote:
07 Feb 2019 09:06
Hi all & best of luck to those attempting to taper. Anyone has successfully achieved tapering it would be great if you posted here?

I just wanted to update the thread to say I'm 1 month sober today. Not after successfully tapering (see previous posts) but through using Librium to remove all withdrawal symptoms to allow a 4 day full detox (with absolutely NO discomfort).

Onwards & upwards! Feeling great without any "poison" in my system for the last month... and am now really looking forward to my first AF birthday, holiday, Christmas etc etc. It doesn't feel scary... it feels exciting!

Best of luck to all,

Mouse x
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Post by Topcat » 07 Feb 2019 10:03

LucyLucyLu wrote:
07 Feb 2019 09:06
I just wanted to update the thread to say I'm 1 month sober today. Not after successfully tapering (see previous posts) but through using Librium to remove all withdrawal symptoms to allow a 4 day full detox (with absolutely NO discomfort).
Oh well done Mouse - terrific stuff (::) <:)> I did home detox with Librium too (more than once for me though) :oops:
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