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Post by Lesley » 30 Jul 2008 13:46

Does any one else suffer from tiredness...ever since I stopped drinking (100 days today...YAY!!) i feel tired all the time and I just want to know if that is normal.

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Post by Lesley » 30 Jul 2008 13:53

thats what I thought - I had a virus back in March and that made me tired but its July now so I thought maybe it was the lack of booze
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Post by winewatcher » 30 Jul 2008 15:56

I get very tired but I give up for a few days a week so its possible it's withdrawal.When I have abstained I felt very tired until week three when I got a complete high. The world felt cleaner, brighter and alive.

As well as the virus, maybe you are under-stimulated and the tiredness is partly boredom. Drinking takes such alot of your social and rest time that hen you stop maybe you need a new challenge.
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Post by Mike » 30 Jul 2008 16:11

Hi Lesley,

I don't pretend to know all the answers but some people experience extreme tiredness and lethargy for up to two years after stopping drinking. That doesn't mean you will experience these symptoms for anything like as long as that. It only means that what you describe can happen.

As you have already heard some people get a fairly rapid returm of energy, and are soon down at the gym to burn it off.

It all goes to show we are all very different. One thing is for sure, it won't be long before you notice you no longer suffer the negative effects of drinking. Lets hope that your energy levels pick up soon.

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Post by Kitty » 30 Jul 2008 16:25

Hi Lesley,
I feel tired a lot of the time, despite feeling obviously much better all round I never experienced that great rush of energy that some do when quitting the booze, (I've been sober for eleven and a half months). I am inclined to feel quite low at times and tiredness can be a symptom of depression, also I know I always feel much better when I watch what I eat, I don't mean a diet as such but if I eat healthily I get bags more energy quite quickly. My problem is I frequently eat more sugery and carb heavy foods than I should (I suppose I see it as a treat since quitting the booze) and this plays havoc with your blood sugar levels and can make you tired and lethargic

Just thought I'd share those thoughts

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Post by Mike » 30 Jul 2008 17:07

Hi Kitty,

I have been sober for exactly the same time as you, and I tend to eat more since I stopped drinking. I don't feel tired as such, in fact I sleep for only 4 hours a night, but my time management is lousy. I seem to get much less done in the available time. Alcohol gave me bursts of energy and enthusiasm which I could utilise and which I am now missing. My mood is much more even. Strangely I no longer suffer from episodes of depression which previously seemed to punctuate my life. For me, they were a direct result of alcohol misuse.

My sobriety birthday will be 24th August. What about you ?

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Post by Lesley » 30 Jul 2008 22:27

Hi Darcy - that garfield photo is the one I had on my facebook page and I lost it somehow and I was quite upset - thank you - I have copied it have a smile again.

Thank you for all your comments - very helpful. It does seem from my research that people vary greatly on this issue and the virus could still have some impact on this even though it has been 5 months since the virus started. Instead of the deep "drugged" tiredness I had originally I now get really tired for a couple of days but not so deep, then have a couple of 80% type days. I have had 3 lots of full blood tests and all is well except my white count which has historically always been low but is slightly higher (due to virus? due to not drinking?)

I normally box 3 days a week and run 3 days a week but havent been able to do this since the virus so it feels doubly debilitating :(

Just this last week i have started doing 13 floors on the stairs in my office building twice a day and on weekend just walking 45 mins at 6 kph which is moderate.

Hopefully this will abate but your comments have been reassuring - thanks all

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Post by Kitty » 31 Jul 2008 10:47

Hi Mike,
Only just seen your post. My moods are also much more even now, but I'm dissapointed to find that I still get low episodes, I really hoped that quitting the booze would stop them. I still feel that there are areas of myself that I need to work on. I had a difficult time with the whole sobriety thing a few weeks ago, hence me finding and joining Bright eye (and I'm so glad I did). I've found it a bit of a lonely process up till now.

I celebrate my year of sobriety on the 17th of August :D

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Post by becca4 » 31 Jul 2008 18:28

Day 18 for me and i feel totally exhausted.
I feel like I have to make an appointment with myself to do anything, especially in the afternoons when I just want to curl up under the duvet.
I remember the last time I stopped I was full of energy and the house was pristine. I can't remember how soon it kicked in but I'm sure I felt great by now.
I was recovering from a dreadful depression at the time and taking Prozac, I would go so far as to say I was even slightly manic when I stopped last time, could that be why?
I have a rotten chest infection at the moment and have just started antibiotics so hopefully when they start to work I should feel less lethargic. I'm really quite disappointed at how flat I feel. Started taking Prozac again last week so we'll see if the tiredness is mood related.

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Post by becca4 » 31 Jul 2008 18:31

P S,
Congratulations Kitty and Mike on your first anniversaries coming up! Hope it's me this time next year!

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Post by byron » 31 Jul 2008 19:18

Beck <:)> <:)>

You have a chest infection bad enough to require antibiotics - you should be resting and when your body is under par then you will feel likewise. Very frustrating and I underestand. You have to let yourself heal - so rest and believe you need it - you do. The house work can wait - your energy will come back. By the way - a chest infection can take up to 6 weeks to recover fully from depending on severity so do try and cut yourself some slack - be kind to you. Eat well, drink plenty - are you on vitamin B1 supplements? If not make sure you have or if you have them make sure you take them - lots of fruit is good along with probiotic drink or yoghurt (keep healthy bacteria levels up in view of antibiotics). Can you use your 'healing' time to do some reading? - it helps to distract your mind a little - stops the mind from thinking to much.

Hope you feel better soon

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Post by Rosie Lee » 31 Jul 2008 21:39

Hi Lesley,

Just a thought, as i sit here typing from my bed completely shattered (i'm on day 5) Yay!
My daughter had glandular fever late last year and we didn't know about it at the time. She was due to have her tonsils out, which happened a couple of months ago, and before the operation the specialist arranged a blood test to check for glandular fever (which apparently is not routinely checked for). It showed positive, which explained many of the symptoms you have described. Chronic tiredness for a few days and then picking up again and so on..
The doctors suggested that she probably had the virus around xmas time, and she was still feeling generally under par 6 months later. It can take ages to recover from. Just wondered if you had had a test to check signs of having contracted it. It stays in your system.

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Post by Lesley » 31 Jul 2008 22:22

Hi Everyone - yes they think it was glandular fever - apparently you cant actually test your blood to see if you have it then but there are markers in your blood to show you have had it - these markers weren't there before so the doc says this is probably the virus I have. I am eating well and going slow so hopefully time will be my friend and all will resolve itself.

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Post by chrissie » 31 Jul 2008 22:27

Hi guys

Don't let the tiredness get you down. Be nice to yourselves. Crawl under the duvet if that's how you feel. I woke up full of energy today (day 18) but by lunchtime was shattered - when my son went to a play thing this afternoon I went to bed for two hours! I have been suffering from a complete lack of energy this year, got Shingles in May which forced me to take a back step and rest when I can, although life doesn't stop so resting is hard. Haven't got over it properly yet even now, and that was a major factor in giving up the booze. Was just about to go to the doctor to ask if it's normal to still be feeling so wiped out two months on but then I had a moment of clarity and thought there was no point in asking the doc that when I knew the amount I was drinking - if I told her that she'd say that was the cause. So I stopped drinking. Am trying to have early nights. Keep thinking my energy levels will improve soon, am doing all the vitamin things. Was doing a lot of walking pre shingles, but have been too tired for the last couple of months to do any exercise until the last week or so - vicious circle really as the less exercise I do the worse I feel, so am trying to increase it gradually now and not knock myself out. Have gone back to my dance class and started doing 30 mins a day on my husband's Wii fit!

I am also learning to go to bed when I'm tired instead of drinking and/or eating to keep myself going. I am hanging on to the thought that it will get better soon. Off to bed now!

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Post by Lesley » 31 Jul 2008 22:57

Hi Chrissie - you describe it to a TEE ( as in TEE total :))

I am taking 12,356,405 different vitamins ( I may have exaggerated just a bit hehehe) but I do rattle when I walk!

I am pretty sure the tirednesss is related to the non drinking althouigh it probably started with the GF and there is probably some residual tiredness from that. Last night I practised self hypnosis promising myself a deep cleansing sleep and waking up refresshed with no tiredness all day. Had the sleep and feel great this morning - will be interesting to see if I stay that way all day - I certainly hope so!!

The bad part is that because I have had cancer before and - not connected - I have always had a low white blood count - and then I say Ive been tired for a few months -as soon as I go to a doctor they freak and want to send mt off for all types of cancer tests - I have already had all these twice and I am fine but these doctors scare me half to death and when you are feeling tired and low its very easy to slip into their mind set and worry. BUT NOT TODAY - I FEEL TOO FRIGGING GOOD AND ITS FRIDAY TO BOOT AND 102 DAYS SINCE I HAD A DRINK - so as long as I stay out of the way of errant buses it should be a good day lol

Thank you all


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Post by chrissie » 01 Aug 2008 00:12

Hi Lesley - 102 days, that's amazing. Which country are you in? I am guessing not the UK is it's not Friday morning here yet (well I guess technically it is, but you know what I mean!). I did go to bed early but couldn't sleep so got up again - that's the problem with going to sleep in the afternoon - it works at the time but messes with your body clock!

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Post by Lesley » 01 Aug 2008 09:27

I'm in Australia Chrissie - now 5.56pm Friday night. Winter here and very cold - fish and chips and a cup of tea for dinner :) - friday treat!!
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Post by chrissie » 01 Aug 2008 10:33

Hi Lesley

I'm shattered today, every time I have a day when I think I've got more energy the next day seems worse. Dragged myself out to my dance class just now, ehan I got there it has finished for the summer. Got my son at home - school hols. He is a party this afternoon and I was going to do something creative - sewing or writing - but right now I feel like I'll just crawl back into bed! Feeling a bit fed up as I can't spend my whole life sleeping, I'm only 40! Still, at least I am staying off the booze!

I went to Australia in my 20s, loved it, keep saying I'll go back and take the family but never seem to be able to take a holiday for longer than about 10 days which isn't worth going all that way. A couple of months would be more like it.

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Post by Lesley » 01 Aug 2008 11:53

Hi Chrissie

Poor thing - I know just how you feel - started today off well but hit the wall this afternoon. What we must do is look at the big picture and when we come out of this we are going to feel soooooo gooooood. We are just going to get that goodness all in one hit ;)

You just keep hanging in and keep telling yourself a drink will put you back at square one and all what you have gone through will have been for nothing.


People at work keep saying aww come on - one drink won't hurt you but I know that deep down they envy me my strength. We may be tired but we are on the way to a better stronger life and if that means I have to feel f****d for a while then it is worth it. BIG PICTURE.

Keep having the ZZZZZZZ's when you need to and they will decrease. you have given me a huge boost because I know what I am going thru is not unusual now and I can focus on moving on and not being scared of "other" things.


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ps - what part of Australia were you in. I am in south Australia
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Post by Lesley » 01 Aug 2008 11:57

Hey Beck

How are you doing?

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