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Christmas - Bah! Humbug

Post by Grendelslip » 21 Nov 2011 17:26

joanne. wrote:Can we have a bah humbug thread too

jarvis jones wrote: Bah humbug to that one, Jo! You just want somewhere to hide so I can't catch you and hold mistletoe above your head!

Well, in seriousness, maybe there should be non-tinsel room? I know there are those who have valid reasons for loathing
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Well here it is folks - don't just whinge about it - make it happen. JJ if you or one of your fellow moderators want to move this to where it belongs, please do, but I'm just going to get this off my chest.

Wind up Sir Cliff, kick Hank into action and let's go!!

Christmas time, mistletoe and wine
parents ge-tting p**ed all the the time
the laughter's all reckless
the gin has all gone
why can't you remember
the words to this song!

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Post by caroline95 » 21 Nov 2011 18:23

I was reading Mariella Frostrup's 'Agony Aunt' column in The Observer yesterday - she was replying to a depressed reader who had written in about how to cope with Christmas.This bit struck a chord -

Who's happy? And what's with all this pressure to stay positive? Am I alone in craving to be left in peace to be depressed sometimes? Call me contrary, but too much up, up, up makes me want to go as far in the opposite direction as I can without doing myself an injury. Your timing is perfect – it is, after all, the season for self-indulgence. Only the deliriously demented or chemically supported stand a chance of finding delight during these short dark days brightened only by dazzling shop displays reminding us of the consummate commercialism of the upcoming festivities. Snuggling up and keeping your head down seems a perfectly valid choice, and if you need a box of tissues nearby, so be it.

This just about sums it all up for me!

Thanks for suggesting this thread Jo, and Dave, thanks for starting it off :D

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Post by pocoloco » 21 Nov 2011 18:47

Well I'm doing christmas alone again this year. The perfect excuse to cook a roast chicken with sprouts and bread sauce and watch dvds. I don't do christmas and have told everyone this for years even though they insist on sending pressies. I'm on day 2 of giving up and a thought at the very back of my mind is to stay that way past christmas and the new year. Being alone makes it the perfect opportunity.
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Post by Soberlady » 21 Nov 2011 20:57

I don't 'do' Christmas either..

Not that I mind others enjoying it if that's what they do
There are probably some families in the world that are not dysfunctional
It seems to be a time where many people who don't want to be together are forced to by guilt
Once the alcohol flows the resentments come out and it's often a hideous day in the end

Caroline
Personally I'd like to stay under the doona for the day
One sentence in your post says it all for me

Too much up, up makes me want to go as far in the opposite direction as I can
without doing myself an injury

That's the key to getting through the day
It's really just another day

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Post by Soberlady » 21 Nov 2011 21:45

LOL Joanne

I love the idea of duvets being issued free for the day for them that want to pass (::)
..when death, the big wind, blows out our birthday candles, only the wish remains..

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Post by MissCheese » 21 Nov 2011 21:48

Christmas is a little like Marmite isn't it.

Personally I neither love it or hate it. Having lived with a guy who hated it for the last 12 years I am actually quite looking forward to spending some relaxed time with my family this year, I won't be worrying about his happiness the whole time, only my own. It's one of the only occasions where my family all gets together now. I only really see them a handful of times during the year as I live so far away from them.

Yes alcohol usually spoils the day, it has done on many occasions for my family in the past, but I'm looking forward to spending this one sober so I can spend quality time with my nieces and nephew and sit back and laugh at the drunken idiots.
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Post by Maria » 21 Nov 2011 21:56

Bah humbug here too
I hate Christmas again we are going away as our daughter won't be home , ppreciate that other people love xmas but do they have to ram it down our faces in November ()o
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Post by Grendelslip » 22 Nov 2011 07:35

MC - Christmas like Marmite? Well it can be described as brown and sticky, but Christmas don't taste good on ya toast.

Did you know - and this is not a wind up - that if you beat Marmite long enough with a spoon it changes colour. Turns a light creamy brown. It does take a while to do this.

Joanne - the answer to most of your questions is ...... profit.

Pocoloco - I shall be eating a sprout and thinking of you on Christmas Day. I'm lucky enough to have my family with me but by mid-afternoon the bodies will be all that remains as the minsd will have gone a-wandering in the land of the EAF

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Post by Grendelslip » 22 Nov 2011 13:46

Christmas? Bah, humbug!

Why? Let me tell you a true story. My dad spent his first five years in the Australian outback. His dad - the grandfather I never knew - was killed in WWII. Dad went to school and was told by his teacher - only a few weeks later - that Father Christmas wouldn't be bringing him any presents because he didn't have a dad.

All I can think is that teacher was trying to let him down gently, assuming that my grandmother couldn't cope. Oh generous me! There's a personal hell in my heart and that nameless teacher is in it. Burn, baby burn.

Christmas? Well, actually my dad used to really enjoy it - still does in fact, bless him. Must remember to tell him I know the secret about Mr C, before my 25 year old daughter lets on to me. Yes, I still do the stocking thing. Silly I know, but it lets her know I really care. Now Sshh!

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Post by Mike » 22 Nov 2011 14:25

The first Christmas I gave up the booze my wife made a Chrstmas pud soaked in brandy, and I was stupid enough to try a helping. After one mouthful I was almost in tears at what I had done.

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Post by claremo » 22 Nov 2011 14:53

My family don't celebrate christmas, as a child we always celebrated new year but once i left home i loved christmas but not all the commercial hype that surrounds it, and i don't do presents apart from now our own kids get but thats it!!

Since having kids we have our own wee christmas day at home wouldn't dream of inviting either family for fear of a fall out kids decorate a tree get santa presents we have a big roast dinner and just a lazy day playing with new toys and watching films, oh and not forgetting the royale family at night with my box of choccies!!!!

Its not an expensive day or a fancy one just me and my family having our own little party!!

My freind asked me the other day if i was taking kids to see santa next weekend i had to laugh there is no way i am taking girls to see santa in november!!

I remember the days where xmas started in december shops were closed for almost a whole week.

I think christmas is what you make it not what the big guns want it to be.

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Post by MissCheese » 22 Nov 2011 15:29

claremo wrote: I remember the days where xmas started in december shops were closed for almost a whole week.
That wasn't all that long ago either!
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Post by caroline95 » 22 Nov 2011 20:45

joanne. wrote: I have no issue with christmas as a rule but its the fact its foisted on you, shops full of rubbish in October/November, decorations going up etc and it isnt Christmas its a holiday for shopping.
My thoughts exactly, which is why Christmas is cancelled as far as I'm concerned.It has been replaced by Winter Festival, which involves nice food, good books/dvd's and some quality duvet time.I'll be spending it alone with my cat, as thankfully, my dysfunctional family live far, far away, so a tenner in a card will suffice :D

The other major complaint I have about Christmas is the relentless playing of mind-numbingly awful 'Xmas songs' in the shops.Asda have started already where I live, so I'm planning on doing the bulk of my Winter Festival shopping online this year.If any shop I venture into happens to be playing Slade/Wizard/Cliff Richard's Yuletime hits, I shall be heading for the nearest exit faster than you can say 'bah humbug'.

I don't do religion, but I do like Christmas carols.Silent Night especially - I have been known to shed a little tear at that one, just so you know I'm not a grumpy old Scrooge all the time!

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Post by Mark. » 22 Nov 2011 21:12

I wasn't going to contribute to this thread (very valid and valuable though it is) because, although rampant consumerism bugs me as much as it does the next Scrooge, I'm a pretty big fan of Christmas in general. However, as guilty as I feel about this, Caroline has reminded me of one aspect of the season that does annoy me.

Every year we go to the children's Christmas concert at the Town Hall, and every year it's excellent. However each and every year they conclude it the same blinking way - with a "surprise" encore of Slade's 'Merry Christmas, Everyone'. Onto the stage they pour, in their Santa hats, and start singing. And then when the choir reaches the chorus, they start waving their arms backward and forwards in the air. Each and every blooming time.

The first year I saw this, it was adorable, and tears welled in my eyes. The second year, it was charming, and I smiled indulgently. The third year, it became mildly annoying. By the fourth, I was sitting on my hands, gritting my teeth. There's a whole canon of fun, Christmas pop hits from which to draw. Does it have to be Slade (much as I love them), each and every year?

This year (the sixth), I'll be tempted to heckle: "Sing something else! ANYTHING else!"

Please, this year, let them choose 'Happy Christmas (War Is Over)', 'Step Into Christmas', 'I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day', 'Thank God It's Christmas', 'Last Christmas', Kate Bush's 'December Will Be Magic Again', or even Paul McCartney's forgotten Christmas classic, 'Once Upon A Long Ago', from 1987. Now that would make a pleasant change.

Because, as you can see from the list, I like Christmas pop songs. I even like Slade's 'Merry Christmas, Everyone'. (Sorry, Caroline!) I just don't like the way the Combined Children's Choirs in this neck of the woods sing it, each and every year.

Bah humbug, indeed!
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Post by Theodore » 22 Nov 2011 21:52

Jarvis Jones wrote: I just don't like the way the Combined Children's Choirs of Inverclyde sing it, each and every year.
Uncle Mark!!

I thought that was your favourite Christmas song and so we sing it just for you........... ()o

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Post by Mark. » 22 Nov 2011 21:59

:o :o :o

Theo, my heart honestly went bump bump bump as soon as I saw "you" were online - I'd just noticed that a ".Theodore" had posted on the 3 Month thread, and I was worried that you'd somehow split it into two and multiplied or, er, something. So I clicked on your name (not pseudo-Theodore's) and saw your signature. Could you please confine yourself to the Late Lounge and Diner, do you think? There's a big pot of lemon curd in it for you. There are innocent folks elsewhere, you see, and I'd really rather you didn't wander around scaring the pants off them. Thanks, that's a good boy. <:)>
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Post by Theodore » 22 Nov 2011 22:04

Bah! Humbug! :roll:

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Post by caroline95 » 22 Nov 2011 22:21

Noooooo....Jarvis, what on earth were you thinking?Theodore The Scary and a big pot of lemon curd?In the same place?

*Caroline scurries off to the Late Lounge to try and put a stop to total carnage*

PS Crossed posts Jo.True pagans of the world unite.....preferably with duvets \:)/

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Post by Mark. » 22 Nov 2011 22:28

Oops! :oops: I didn't think of that, Caroline!
joanne. wrote:Mwaahhhh mwaaahhh even the Cocker has succumbed to this thread :twisted:
Only momentarily, I'm afraid, Jo. Now that Theo has explained the situation, I shall be clapping and waving my arms along with the Combined Choirs of This Neck of the Woods with no little amount of gusto :?

And since I've got all that off my chest, I'll be away now to sing sing sing!

I'll leave all you duvet-wearing pagans in peace... ;)
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Post by silvergirl » 22 Nov 2011 22:37

"I have all of the usual objections to consumerism
The commercialisation of an ancient religion
And the western-isation of a dead Palestinian
Press-ganged into selling PlayStations and beer"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tho of course, this song is about really liking Christmas. For all the right reasons. It's also the reason my mind justified breaking seven and a bit months of sobriety - he's allowed white wine, why aren't I... :roll:

Hey ho. And I think you should give Theo a break. He did lose out on his birthday cake after all...

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