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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by Rachel » 02 Dec 2019 09:21

Well done Blifter!
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by Ed » 02 Dec 2019 15:16

Well done blifter. \:)/

5 years Jo thats brilliant. How do you feel....both of you?

I don't remember shelsey I'm afraid but I've been on and off this site for long periods.

I'm battling with depression, sleeplessness and regret. Not contemplating drinking but sobriety certainly lifts a lid on what the drinking was causing and what's there anyway.
Enough time wasted on this.

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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by SoberBoots » 02 Dec 2019 16:10

I'm battling with depression, sleeplessness and regret. Not contemplating drinking but sobriety certainly lifts a lid on what the drinking was causing and what's there anyway.
I too had big issues with regret and the sense of wasted time. However, although it's still there it seems to have receded very considerably. As I've seen many others write about this too, I wonder if it's a stage to be expected? I often think we should somehow collate all our experiences on here and produce a handy guide for those getting sober, covering the first five years or so, because while of course there's lots of individual variation there are often common experiences at around the same time, which must tell us something about the recovery process.
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Post by Ed » 02 Dec 2019 16:26

Thats an interesting idea SB. Its all here somewhere and I think you are right that its perhaps a common stage. Winter doesnt help but the stages of the first year can often be enough of a focus at low ebbs, into the second year and there really arent any more stages. Another year maybe. 5 years. 10 years. The stage is just maintaining sobriety for as long as you can, for life with any luck. My days are ok as I can keep busy but at 4 in the morning with a racing mind its a different question altogether.
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by joholdbrook » 02 Dec 2019 18:45

Ed wrote:
02 Dec 2019 15:16
Well done blifter. \:)/

5 years Jo thats brilliant. How do you feel....both of you?

I don't remember shelsey I'm afraid but I've been on and off this site for long periods.

I'm battling with depression, sleeplessness and regret. Not contemplating drinking but sobriety certainly lifts a lid on what the drinking was causing and what's there anyway.
Ed i feel OK I still have bad days but it's not everyday being bad
I think we all live with regret and depression I used to suffer with sleep then I became addicted to sleeping tablets and battled to get of them for years
I read now until I fall asleep
Regrets yes we have them but we can't change it so look forward not back
Shelsey we were friends on here we were not a good combination though we were both very damaged in many ways but I still think of her and hope she is doing well still
Depression is horrible I hope you have got help for it sometimes I feel that pit of despair in my self Iv felt it lately and I can also feel that utter uncontrollable despair in myself if I don't pull my train of thought into a good place quickly it can snowball very quickly
I'm better at helping others than helping myself most of the time

But Ed your not alone and I get you x
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by SoberBoots » 02 Dec 2019 20:37

Hey Jo :\: congrats on your anniversary coming up!

Ed, I'm not so sure about there being no more "stages" once you're into the second year. The first quarter of my second year was by far the toughest I have yet had. And throughout the second year I noticed changes in myself - I wish I'd kept a journal of my sober journey, but I haven't. The science tells us that there's neurological repair going on up to around the two year mark, and even beyond.
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by joholdbrook » 03 Dec 2019 06:54

SoberBoots wrote:
02 Dec 2019 20:37
Hey Jo :\: congrats on your anniversary coming up!

Thank you sober boots
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by Lush4life » 03 Dec 2019 07:44

Well done on 5 years Jo , we are close in sober years, my fifth year in February. (::) ;)?
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Post by fiz » 04 Dec 2019 05:22

5 year Jo :o that is amazing ;)? well done you, \:)/
It’s nice to hear of (more than I thought), all of you who have and are achieving these fantastic years, although, it’s lovely to reach 1 year, I think there is a bit of an anticlimax once you get there, or that is how it felt for me. So now, I just think, ok, let’s see how you feel after another year, then perhaps I’ll think let’s do another? I hope so. Saying all of that, I would not give this whole year of sobriety up without a fight, my mind is so much clearer than 1 year ago, to name just one benefit.
Keep going all of you, you are such an inspiration and give hope to us all.
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Post by SoberBoots » 04 Dec 2019 07:27

Fiz, When I hit a year I asked for advice about the second year. Several people said it was tougher than the first, and while that might seem a bleak message it was really helpful because I was prepared for tough times when they hit (and they did - two nasty bouts of PAWS). Instead of despairing about my individual journey, as I might have done otherwise, I understood that this is a well-travelled road, and many find this stretch rocky. You sound firm in your resolve, and please don't allow yourself to feel at all discouraged, because things do improve! In fact the relapse rate drops markedly after two years, and this reflects my own experience in that I feel much, much more solid in my sobriety. The first year was about a challenge, the second year was about consolidation - putting a house up, and then a phase of doing all the finishing work.
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by Ed » 04 Dec 2019 09:57

Love your avatar SB!
Enough time wasted on this.

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Post by fiz » 04 Dec 2019 12:09

Thanks SB <:)> it really means a lot to me, I think I’m possibly going through a bout of PAWS now, I just keep telling myself, it will pass.
Thank you for your encouragement and sound advice. <:)>
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Post by Topcat » 04 Dec 2019 12:12

fiz wrote:
04 Dec 2019 12:09
I think I’m possibly going through a bout of PAWS now,
I had a bout of PAWS a few weeks into year 2 and I believe it's quite common. Takes a long time to develop an alcohol problem so it stands to reason that it is going to take time to recover. TC xx
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Post by fiz » 04 Dec 2019 14:56

Thanks TC <:)> It helps to know others have been through it and came out of the other side. This site is fantastic for the collective knowledge we have re: alcohol and it’s effects.
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by joholdbrook » 04 Dec 2019 18:15

Thanks fiz x

I think Iv got paws permanently lol them mood swings are awful

I think over the years we become stronger and can cope better don't get me wrong I have says when I could kill for a drink Iv been faced over this time with some terrible times but strength pills me through each time

My secret is now my story I'm proud of me now and my god I wasn't

Iv made good friends from this group that we talk off here they know when your quite and check on you that's a remarkable thing from prople who were all rock bottom
I'm grateful to them and for them in my life daily

But I'm never complacent with my problem I'm just one drink away from hell and that is always my thought
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by SoberBoots » 04 Dec 2019 18:43

These links are quite helpful:

https://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/p ... drawal.htm

https://www.poppswebsite.com/post-acute-withdrawal-paw/

My bouts of PAWS were quite distinct emotional/psychological experiences, very challenging (I am quite sure that if it wasn't for the learning and support of this site I would have relapsed) and lasted about 2-3 weeks in total each, from first signs to return to whatever normal is. I've come to think that's to do with uneven neurological repair and recovery, and particulalry dopamine regulation. It does seem to almost always be sorted out by the two year mark and often before, both my bouts were in the first part of the sceond year and at around 18 months I felt a sort of sea change going on in me, so I decided to mark that as big milestone (it's when I bought myself my sober boots as a reward, hence the moniker!). The old "no matter what, I will not drink" mantra was one thing that helped em through, and so very glad I stuck with it.
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by joholdbrook » 07 Dec 2019 09:54

\:)/ \:)/ \:)/ 5 years today \:)/ \:)/ \:)/ (::)
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by Trojan » 07 Dec 2019 09:58

\:)/ Congratulations Jo \:)/
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by fiz » 07 Dec 2019 10:02

Yeah, \:)/ congratulations jo 🥳
Fantastic achievement (::)
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Re: Beyond the 1 Year Milestone

Post by Lush4life » 07 Dec 2019 10:15

Congratulations Jo.
5 years that's brilliant (::)
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