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Re: meditation

Postby Cate » 06 Nov 2012 11:05

I am Joop.
I did the first one yesterday lunch but wasn´t settled at all but i think I´m ready for it today.
I already did a meditation early this morning and some QiGong before work.
Did you take a look at the link they sent with him and Oprah talking about it ? Few good helpful pointers there.

MH - How´s it going ? I so enjoyed reading you´re post. Like you say it´s about living a mindful life too.

Gerard - Hi - HOw´s it going ? Like Mh says I´ve got the book and the CD and think it´s a good resourse too. I just haven´t settled down to work with that either :oops:
Could say "lost case" but I AM improving. Just very SLOWLY.

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Re: meditation

Postby joop » 06 Nov 2012 11:47

I've not checked the link yet, I will do later!

I quite like the topic of this challenge, abundance is all around us and feeling joy is having abundance and its not about wealth in monetary terms. I liked using the mantra as well, not done that before and think it worked well. I think this may be good!
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Re: meditation

Postby Cate » 07 Nov 2012 11:10

Morning,
Hi Joop, It´s good even if it´s just to get you into the habit and helping to find out where you can go with meditation.
I have to say that at first when I saw " achieve abundance " I thought uhhrr " the Secret" sort of thing but like you say. It´s more than that.
I´ve only recently tried the mantra thing too. It does help doesn´t it.

Years ago when I first started trying meditation I always used visualisations but I got to the point that I just wanted to find some peace. Give my mind a flippin rest !!

I just realised something. The use of " years ago " and " trying" makes me feel a little down. I use the same words for stopping the alcohol too.

Hope you´re all well and happy.

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Re: meditation

Postby Mountainhare » 07 Nov 2012 21:36

Hi Cate, Joop, 1Sun, J2, Gerard, Lee and everyone. I have been doing some breathing and relaxation techniques. They seem to have helped me to slow down and start standing back a little from life allowing me to view life more as a spectator instead of someone who is in the midst of the crowd being jostled along, like a twig caught in the rushing waters of a river.

Last weekend I tried a little meditation in some local woods, which are set on the edge of the Dark Peak. I have been there before, but this time instead of walking, it felt as if I flew through the woods in the company of angels. I stood under branches of giant beech trees, enormous branches stretching outward with an amazing display of strength and beauty. I felt the texture of the bark with my hands, like the rough bumpy skin of an aged rhino; in places moss and lichen covered the tree with a vivid green sleeve of soft moist pastures. A fern had taken root in a hollow and nook and the sun shon through its leaves as it does through partially open blinds. High above other branches stretched to the sky, and golden leaves drifted to earth like the fluttering thoughts of the summer, discarded by autumn. They fell to the ground where a carpet of gold and orange covered the earth into which they will decay and become part of, as will all life in the end.

The Dark Peak forests and grasses have been painted with hues of golden brown by the brushstrokes of autumn, like a brown Serengeti on a cold English hill. An awareness of life filled my soul as I walked across this cold landscape and the beauty, which radiated from all around, was absorbed into my heart as a dry sponge soaks up a liquid. Even the pylons took on an artistic guise, and as I passed them by I could sense their energy and feel it tingle in my body as it buzzed in the cold brisk wind.

I felt my senses were keener, like the senses of a small woodland mammal, whose life depends on its vigilance, as it watches for an eagle. I could smell scents on the wind, the scent of earth and trees, and ferns and the cold dark water of the reservoirs with its white tipped waves, they all had a scent previously unnoticed by me.

It is like the mindfulness I have been practicing is paying dividends. A cloud of gloom has dispersed and has been replaced by rainbows and smiles. A love for my life is returning. The creative, poet inside is awakening once more as booze leaves my soul and inspiration enters, dressed in a cloak and top hat, twirling a gold handled cane and dancing a graceful waltz to the music of love.


It all sounds a bit mad I know, but is how I felt. It was a great feeling and one I want to replicate, as often as possible.
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Re: meditation

Postby 1sunworshipper » 07 Nov 2012 22:18

MH - I really enjoyed reading your post and I did so slowly as though I was experiencing it with you. Sounds wonderful and I am so thrilled for you that you are reaping the benefits of mindful meditation. This is all so new to me and I'm finding it hard to get going and do the homework practice but back in class tomorrow so will endeavour to draw more out of it and so improve. BTW nice to see you back posting <:)> <:)>
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Re: meditation

Postby 1sunworshipper » 07 Nov 2012 22:25

Gerard, meant to say the course I am doing is the one put together by Mark Williams and his team. All the CD's that get handed out each session are him. I did joke with my teacher and say the voice sounded like the narrator from Bagpus and she laughed and said she would tell him that. I get the impression that he is based in the same building where my course is being held. It is a lovely new building within the hospital grounds which also is a research centre as well I am so fortunate to be based where I am - it was just meant to be.
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Re: meditation

Postby Gerard » 07 Nov 2012 22:32

MH,

That sounds wonderful. Your post reminds me of vivid childhood memories, when I had a very keen sense of place and connection to nature, and also a highly developed visual memory for times and places. It's an aspect that I hope to regenerate after the years of neglect.

May I ask, are you following written or guided (audio) exercises?

Thanks for sharing that, - it's always a pleasure to hear from you.
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Re: meditation

Postby Gerard » 08 Nov 2012 08:59

1sun, we cross-posted there - thanks for the update.
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Re: meditation

Postby Cate » 13 Nov 2012 12:51

Hi everyone.

What a wonderful post MH thanks for sharing. Yes you must do it more often and tell us all about it please.

Sunshine - It sounds like you´re more settled into the course now. Are you enjoying it ?

I´ve been doing the 21 day challenge and now and again some meditations on my own. I´ve also recently been doing some Qi Gong ( have i said it before) I find it a sort of moving meditation which i´m really enjoying.

Hope everyone is doing good.

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Re: meditation

Postby MDolla » 19 Nov 2012 15:04

I've tried meditation for years but I just can't do it at home with all the distractions. I've just applied to do this 10 day course in Hereford. I like the sound of it, no distractions for 10 days,instilling discipline and purifying the mind. It will probably hard but I'd love to give it a go, after all what have I got to lose.

http://www.dipa.dhamma.org/

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Re: meditation

Postby Cate » 22 Nov 2012 11:42

Hello Mdolla.
When does the course start ? Sounds interesting. I imagine the first two or three days will be a little hard to settle but then it´ll get easier.
Not that I´ve ever done anything like that. I´m just guessing.
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Re: meditation

Postby Boris Bike » 10 Dec 2012 21:46

How are all the meditators getting on?

I'm having my fourth go at getting back into regular practice. I won't make any great claims due to past experience of stopping again fairly quickly.
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Re: meditation

Postby joop » 10 Dec 2012 21:54

I've not done one since I last posted :( its not like I don't have the time its 20 mins a day :(

Need to make the effort, might help with the silly season stress :)
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Re: meditation

Postby Boris Bike » 11 Dec 2012 01:23

Yes, I certainly can't blame time either.

I often notice pockets of time and think "I could meditate here" but I end up going to some website or other to fill the gap. I shall try not to do that now!
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Re: meditation

Postby sharoni73 » 11 Dec 2012 03:05

hi i downloaded the chopra 21 day challenge and never got round to it. Now i can't access it. I bought a book on mindfulness - Mindfulness a pratical guide to peace in a frantic world by Prof Mark Williams and have been reading it. When at school/college today we were discussing mindfulness as a non drug treatment if bipolar affective disorder.. That makes it quite powerful in my eyes. The best part for me is the book i have is not religious!! I will let you know how i get on with it as i go x
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Re: meditation

Postby Mountainhare » 11 Dec 2012 06:38

Hi sharoni

Glad you are finding the book interesting and helpful. I have found the practice of mindfulness a helpful and therapeutic approach to life.



I notice many folk are struggling to find the time to meditate. I too struggle to sit in the house and meditate. What I have been doing is incorporating meditation into various areas of my life. For example; I have recently started back at the gym and I practice forty minutes of meditation whilst I am using the stepper machine. I have found if I concentrate on a fixed point ie a rivet on the running machine or some other specific point in front of me, (the girl in the tight pants :D ) I can get in to a trance and meditative state. This is also applicable to swimming, and walking in the hills too. I can't run due to knee problems but I think running lends itself to this way of meditating.

I have also tried it in the sauna when it has been quiet.

I just cannot seem to find the time and or the spiritual state of mind needed to be able to do it at home. I have thought about going to a church and sitting quietly at the back and meditating there. I am not religious but I always find a spiritual connection with churches, especially old ones. Chester cathedral is fantastic!

I also have my course to look forward to in January at the Samye Ling Buddhist place in Scotland, maybe this will teach how to find a more spiritual mindset at home? One thing I have realised though is that I need mindfulness and meditation in my life if I am to conquer my alcohol addiction.

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Re: meditation

Postby Boris Bike » 11 Dec 2012 17:56

Mountainhare wrote:I have found if I concentrate on a fixed point ie a rivet on the running machine or some other specific point in front of me, (the girl in the tight pants :D )


Using a woman's bum as a meditation object would open you up to what Buddhists call "defilements". ;)
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Re: meditation

Postby Boris Bike » 11 Dec 2012 17:57

I have done a couple of ten minute quick meditations today. Feeling the benefit, at least during and a little after. But I think I will step up to at least 15 as ten is very short.
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Re: meditation

Postby Mountainhare » 12 Dec 2012 06:47

Boris Bike wrote:Using a woman's bum as a meditation object would open you up to what Buddhists call "defilements". ;)



I like Buddhism Boris, but there are a few areas of it, which I find difficult to "get jiggy" with

1) Reincarnation

2) vegetarianism

3) and now it seems difilements :D :D :D

Joking apart, I am drawn more and more to a lot of areas of Buddhism the further I go down the road to sobriety.

I shall endevour to do some meditating tonight.
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Re: meditation

Postby Boris Bike » 12 Dec 2012 19:21

Yes, I won't be following all of Buddhism by any means. They talk of different planes of existence into which you can be reincarnated. Like you, that's not something I will ever believe in.

I don't even believe in Nirvana which is what the practice is supposed to ultimately lead you to. Basically, if it existed, I think there would be a few people around to talk about it. For me it's an ideal. You can strive for it but you will never reach it, like you will never have the perfect painting or the perfect song.

I find I'm struggling at the moment. You expect meditation and mindfulness to give you patience and a love towards all things. So why is it my mother is driving me absolutely CRAZY these last two days!? I am not feeling much love towards her right now...
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