Alcohol Withdrawal

alcohol withdrawalThe symptoms of alcohol withdrawal are exceptionally unpleasant, as I’m sure you know. There are physical symptoms and emotional ones. Let’s start with the most extreme to get it out of the way – death.

Yes, if you’re physically dependent on alcohol, then a sudden withdrawal as opposed to a gradual detox can actually kill you or leave you with brain damage, usually via a seizure (a bit like an epileptic fit). Heart palpitations are the milder form of this. But lets hope you’re not quite that bad just yet (if you are drinking over 70 units per week for a woman or 100 for a man, then at least try to cut down gradually, or better than that – see a doctor).

On to the less fatal withdrawal symptoms then, we have hallucinations (usually unpleasant – spiders or snakes are common), the shakes, nausea and vomiting, oh and diarrhoea of course. Particularly unpleasant is waking in the middle of the night soaked in cold sweat, or alternatively, your own piss. It’s not sounding like a party exactly, is it?

Then you might have a splitting headache, often from severe dehydration and dilation of blood vessels. Basically the brain shrinks away from the lining of the skull. Ouch!

Hypoglycaemia, caused by the inability of the liver to metabolize sugar, can then leave you feeling irritable, nervous or aggressive, and weak.

You might end up with a few more emotional effects too, like mood swings, depression or confusion. Basically feeling like the lowest form of life on the planet.

So how can you make alcohol withdrawal easier?

  • Electrolyte replacement might help (the sachets you can get for diarrhoea are the best), along with plenty of liquids.
  • Complex carbohydrates (like brown rice, wholemeal bread, wholegrain cereals etc.) will help to slowly stabilize your blood sugar levels.
  • Eggs contain Cysteine, which can help the liver to metabolize Acetaldehyde (the toxic by-product of alcohol).
  • B-vitamin supplements are essential, as they help your nerve cells to recover from the damage you’ve inflicted.
  • We all know about the healing powers of caffeine – this constricts the blood vessels and can therefore alleviate the headache.

But to be on the safe side, if you’re drinking most mornings in order to get through your hangover, or you often get the shakes and sweats if you haven’t had a drink for a while, then you really should get some medical support before you consider withdrawing.


861 Responses to “Alcohol Withdrawal”

  1. Amanda says:

    Hey Guys!,

    I couldn’t believe it when I checked on here and you were all concerned. Thanks.. That means so much! Aww I started drinking again and have been since last week but I’ve been so I’ll today with hangover and I’ve decided to try and stop again, my breathing has been so bad and the pains in my right side have been terrible. I am really struggling tonight, hence why I am on here at 4am.. I can’t sleep, my head is killing me my heart keeps palpitating, I’ve got the sweats and I just feel really ill.. I just want it to be Thursday when withdrawl starts to wear off :-(
    Martin, well done on your 71 days, will be 72 by the time you read this :-) I admire your determination and self control.. I hope u can follow your lead.
    Steve, I hope your feeling better now.. Stick in there. Right now I am so scared, I feel like I’m going to die!! But let’s hope not and we can get through the hardest part. I know people say it’s staying off the drink that’s hardest but right now I feel nothing can be harder! :-( I sound pathetic but I’ve been lying here feeling so ill since 11pm and I am trying to distract myself from panicking. I might actually go to the AA tomorrow.
    Sean, I am impressed that you only drink your few pints mon and fri, you seem to have a routine that works for you! Probably more than docs would advise but your not getting drunk and damaging yourself all the same. I did get told that to completely avoid drinking is the only way which will work for me. I have tried cutting down, when I said last week about having one glass of wine each night who was I kidden.. The second night I was finished the bottle and was looking for more!! I’d love to be a normal drinker but I’m greedy.
    Anyways, I don’t know what to do :-( I’m scared to stop typing and face reality. I feel so ill!!! And it scares me so much!!! I’m going to do this though.. I’m sick of feeling ill from self abuse, it’s just not good enough.
    Night guys,
    Amanda xxxx

    • Rebecca says:

      Hi Amanda,

      I hope you’ve managed to make it through another day. I know exactly how you feel! I’m very familiar with everything you’ve described, I just want to encourage you to keep going. It gets better really quickly and it’s worth it, reality isn’t so bad when you’re sober. So how are you, did you go to AA? I just wanted to encourage you to stay strong, I’ve been there and I know how a little encouragement can go a long way. Well, just wanted to say hi and I’m thinking of you too.

      Steve – you too, you were just encouraging me and helping me not long ago at all and it really helped. Thanks for telling me not to give up.

      Rebecca

      • Amanda says:

        Hey,
        thank you! I’m happy you can relate, it’s a relief! Have you stopped drinking or you still trying? I have been off it since Sunday which I’m proud about but I’m feeling pretty ill, it’s like I have a bad flu? However I’m feeling better knowing my liver is getting a rest, the pain has went down it’s not as bad.. I’m determined to stay off it but it’s so difficult. Anyway it’s my fourth day and I’m just taking it a day at a time. I didn’t go to the AA, I might go over the next week though. Yeah it’s amazin being sober. I’m going to have to get a hobby to substitue though cause I’m getting anxious about the weekend. How are you?
        Amanda
        xx

      • Rebecca says:

        Hi Amanda,

        Glad to hear that you’re doing better! I’ve only drank once in 2 weeks and it wasn’t too much, maybe 4 drinks. I’m happy with that right now, I lost my job and also lost control of my drinking for awhile this summer. The worst was probably about 3 weeks ago (I think) when I had over 3 bottles of wine, I thought I was going to die. I’ve been doing better since then. I’ve been on the site for a long time and it’s really helped me so much. The longest I was completely abstinent was a little over 3 months. Keep posting we’re very supportive and understanding here!

        Rebecca

  2. Jax says:

    Steve?????????

    Are you OK??

    Just came to check in here…..am really worried by your last post.

    Hugs xxxxxxxxxxxx

  3. Steve says:

    Hi Jax,
    Thanks for checking on me hun x. Yes im ok now. Toothaches gone, just got to sort out this clinic to get it pulled out. Im off the pain killers and have vastly cut the whiskey down. Just got a bit depressed there. Ive got loads of problems but hey? Got to keep going. Fortunatly work straightens me out. Thanks though Jax, you are a diamond! xxxx

  4. Steve says:

    Greetings again all,
    As my brain works, or should i say, like my windows 95 brain works, (takes some time but if you wait long enough you get the picture) I have a sneaky feeling that im the worst piss head here. My bin had ten empty litre whiskey bottles in it last week. Um? Hee hee.. and thats only what i got down me here?
    This is not clever but if you filled my shoes at the moment you would probarbly be hanging off a rafter instead of giving information. To scare/ help people
    I will tell you something scary OK.

    I weigh 18, 5lb now, (i have lost 24 lb since i started working again) but, here you go, Thats about 20 lb off real good shape for me. ( i will get to the point hang on) Im not in real good shape but how you look and heathy are two different things? I know that. Ok So if i was i would be 17 stone solid, and i mean that.
    Your average chap weighs what 13 stone and is not as i would say in good shape? So say they was to go for it and weigh? shit i dunno 11,5? Lets be real, 11 stone guy with no fat? Ok for the benefit of doubt. That is …….. wait…… er………… 5 and a half stone less than me? Think im bragging? You dont know me if you do? Im explaining something.
    Ok if thats the case women weigh about average 15% less than a guy? fair to say? This is averages, but lets be honest if you get a bigger girl shes not going to be more muscular, just fatter. Dont start!
    Fat is what it is on your steak? Its fat, bangs about with you but its not worth talking about. Its just baggage. you dont have any veins through it or nothing? Thats simple fact.
    Ok so the smaller the person, the less bodily fluid? Women keep even higher ratio of fat to water than men naturally, so even if they think they are thin they are not lean like a man would be? So Mrs honolulu u are still fat? Its a nice ass mind?
    Alcohol hardly ever enters fat! fact. So i drink a litre of whiskey at say 17 stone in shape? Thats a lot?
    If i was a 10 stone woman? and i had to get lean, say, lets be honest a ten stone average woman, to get lean she would be like 8stone 7lb if lucky?
    So she could drink Half a litre of whiskey and feel like me you say? NO no, Women absorb alcohol faster into the bloodstream as well. This is also a fact.
    Women have a greater chance of liver desease than men. fact
    Once damaged a female liver has a much poorer chance of survival rate
    So just because i say i drink a litre of whiskey a day Thats about the equivalent to 1/3rd of a litre to you girls?
    Tell me i am wrong?
    Point being, when i say i have drank this or that it dont mean you can and still stay alive you may wake up in a different world of hurt.

    I must add one last thing.
    I had to take my parents dog to the vets today, it was very poorly. she is old. the vet asked me what was wrong and i said well we have tried her on different things but i think thes getting too much iron? the vet said why would you think that? i said well, every time i go to take her for a walk she makes a bolt for the door?

    • Amanda says:

      Hey steve!,
      Good to hear your feeling better! I hope you feel less depressed.. Alcohol I the worst for bringing your emtions down eh. I get really anxious and panicky, horrible.. The less you drink, the less your prone to depression? That’s me in my 4th day ‘sober’, it’s been a struggle, iv felt so ill all week, but I’m doing it a day at te time. The pains in my side are calming down slightly.. Not effectig my breathing as much. It’s great your still working, I have lost every job due to drink.. Either been too hungover and not went in or been too busy drinking my days away. I have had great jobs and always hid my drinking, but as per usual, everything points back to when I’m drinking.
      Where’s Sean??
      Haha, bolt to door!! Your funny! That made me chuckle..
      Amanda
      x

  5. Gillian says:

    I must add one last thing.
    I had to take my parents dog to the vets today, it was very poorly. she is old. the vet asked me what was wrong and i said well we have tried her on different things but i think thes getting too much iron? the vet said why would you think that? i said well, every time i go to take her for a walk she makes a bolt for the door?
    ******************************

    Haha! You daft bugger! xxx

  6. Gillian says:

    Martin…Well proud of you…You must be feeling great! x

    Amanda…Take heart. It can be done, honestly! It’s never easy, and usually it takes more than one attempt. Just keep trying…believe me, it’s worth it x

    All ok with me… As in I’ve not reverted to my old ways with the stress. Pulled myself up after the extra bottle that weekend. Back on track with just friday and saturday indulgence. Unlike Steve’s litre of whiskey, it doesn’t numb the pain…but it does give me something to look forward to!

    Love To All xxx

    • Amanda says:

      Hi Gillian,

      Well done in getting your drinking down to the weekends, at least you will feel your head clearer during the week! How long did it take you to get things under control at first? I’m going to find it hard at the weekend, I’m trying to think of things to do which avoid alcohol.. Hmm! Might lock myself away for the month! Ha. I rubbish that other people can drink and they are ok. Thank you for encouraging me. Coming on here and reading everyones posts is helping loads. I think the worst of the withdrawl is over but let’s hope after tonight I will be stronger. I will keep trying. I have relapsed loads before, the most I have went is one month, that ‘i can have a drink now I’m feeling great’ stage set in.
      Amanda
      x

      • Gillian says:

        Hi Amanda…We’ve not “spoken” before, so let me just say well done for getting this far! You’re doing great.

        I first came on this site beginning of December last year, and I kid you not…I was a mess!! However, through sheer determination and the help and support I found here, I cleaned myself up, sorted myself out, and in June this year congratulated myself on 6 months of sobriety! Since then, I’ve had a couple of “tipsy” bouts of booze, but nothing major, and a bit like Sean, I seem to have mastered the art of controlling it…rather than it controlling me. I’ve found a job I love…Keeps me busy! I’ve earned the respect of my daughters and family, I’ve rediscovered my confidence and I can bear to look in the mirror again!! In short, All Good…Apart from my relationship going down the pan, that is! haha

        Keep posting Amanda…I must’ve said a hundred times, and I’ll say it a hundred times more…I couldn’t've done it without the true understanding and support I found here. I love these people!

        xxx

  7. Sean says:

    Hi all I think its done good for the site me not coming on here dribbling lol……..10 minutes i have to read back on all the posts. Hope its a good read in a good way………Just got internet back on as i was skint and dongle money had to take a back seat. brb

  8. Sean says:

    Hay that was a good read………Steve the dentist story lol story of my life ..Man i read that like i was reading my own life…That pain you had well i have had that on and off now for about 18 years. My back teeth upper and lower chewing ones you no the ones beside the wisdom teeth well i pulled them my self in the end. I think the root may still be in there because i get apses after apses ….My front teeth i tried to pull when the pain was like wat you was describing mind you i had put up with that pain for 5 or 6 years in them front ones. Not all ways bang on face pulling pain but any way i tried to pull the front ones but snapped them so i still have the pain on and off and a mouth that looks like a rail road track. And i am locked in my world because i cant speak to any one…I think maybe that’s part of the problem why i get so angry…..Thats not the real me Steve….If i could describe my self it would take all night but in short the real me is a placid layed back bloke that would work harder than all the blokes he works with and cover the ass of any man that’s not up to it if he is having a bad day or week..A MUG some might say…..Money i have no respect for it….Well i do i mean i no how kin hard it is to get but i give more than i take….Then there is Mr Angry….A simple thing like well if i can remember it why cant you as in if i Sean can remember to put the bins out why cant you that could set me off in to a full scale want to smash ya face in or run over your head anger….Silly really as well there are people that would rip the head clean of me. I am not a massive bloke and i don’t have a massive punch….I am pretty fast and i do tend to be a bit false and look like i am about to crack ya in the face when really i am about to work your body over and i can take a right good punch but that worry’s me a little….All in all i hate that person that angry man…..I can relate back to when it first really started and i mean pure anger full on rage and i think i no why i have it and its not drink or the abuse and affect booze has long term i am shore as eggs are eggs it was when my dad passed away….I have my reasons there but i cant lay them down here well i could but i am not going to….Maybe one day i will open that box but for now i think i will leave the lid closed.

    Errrrr i have never had a boss say to me keep me posted though the day….Its more ok m8 well look get your self sorted and i will see you in the morning.

    Amanda You will have to pack the booze in full stop you do not need me to tell you that i no….You no that your self but when it comes to being greedy with booze there was none more greedy than my self. All us booze heads are the same we are greedy with booze some of us are not so greedy with life you no we don’t grab it by the scruff of the neck and make the most of the few years we have here….I do try now but i am still to insincere to grab it proper like i would like to but i will some day soon…..I think the thing with a site like this is this…..HELP is HERE its in different forms i mean this is only one page and its the sort of page were we as in us the regulars do not have to ask for help we just sort of lay down wat we are doing…..Now that helps until you tern the page off then your on your own again…..The word OWN man i hate that word but its so true….Hay my next post i will bounce in to the room HI EVERY ONE hahaha…………

    Hay i would love to no haw many people sit and read this stuff with a bottle of wine or 8 pack of beer….They must do i did it my self before i first started posting…I just thought of wat my dad use to say to me when he would now and again get deep with me as in he was sober just came in from work and i was in the same club half bladderd….Its a old saying but so true for all walks of life be that you have every thing fame money or you have nothing empty flat sally army tea….He would say as he looked at me holding my pint YOU wont find the answer looking in to the bottom of that glass son….I think i use to grunt yuuuu and think shut the **** up lol.

    I all ways say never say never but by saying that you have all ready made up your mind to drink again so that’s why i say never say never say never lol

  9. Gillian says:

    Sean…Love your post! And don’t ever think about disappearing for longer than a few hours…cos I’m sure I’m not the only one who relies on my daily fix of your “dribbling”!! (Just for the record, Addaction put all my problems down to not “dealing” with the death of my Dad)

    Amanda…With regard to Sean’s, never say never say never. I don’t know if this will help you, but it worked for me. Once I hit that (inevitable) “I’m ok now, one won’t hurt…” I told myself there was nothing to stop me having a drink, “but I’ll just wait til tomorrow”.

    I “just waited til tomorrow” for 6 months plus. And each (daily!) time I waited, it got easier, because I never said never. In my early days, Amanda, the thought of never drinking again was the one thing that stopped me giving up! How daft is that? But its the one thing that stops many drinkers quitting… we can’t envisage a life without booze. If you wait til tomorrow for long enough, I promise you, you will find other priorities in life…and the sobriety will give you the confidence to realise you don’t NEED a drink, you just would like one..and from then on, the choice is yours!

    The difference is a revelation…and you can take control of your life again xxx

    • Amanda says:

      Oh gillian you are a wise woman hehe. I have been saying to my husband that I am never drinking again, I hope not to but it’s unrealistic. I found myself thinking of your words today when we went for lunch.. My husband and I drink a lot, he can control it and I can’t. He stops once he feels a bit drunk and I start to drink twice as fast, hence the reason to stop. Anyway, he said today he feels rubbish drinking himself and I should just have a few. I’ve explained to him a million times how It doesn’t work like that. I turned to him and said, “maybe I’ll have one tomorrow”.. And he was quite satisfied, not only that.. I kind of convinced my own thinking into feeling satisfied that there was nothing stopping me but just not yet. Haha. I’m struggling to explain this properly. All I’m saying is it’s a good way to look at things and thank you. That’s me one week sober!!!! :-) xx

  10. Steve says:

    Hi all,
    Well this is starting to look a bit more like it here! I couldnt agree with you more Gillian about Sean, I know he’s my mate and all, but i also like to read his dribble… lol. It inspires me do do a bit of dribbling myself. Sean wont leave us, he just backs off now and then.
    Amanda, Glad your back. Its a real hard thing trying to stop this drinking game, as you undoutably know, but it can be done. From your posts i can see that like myself you have drunk for a long time and its not the buzz of getting smashed that keeps you on it. Your body bacomes dependant on alcohol and if you dont let it have what it wants your in for a real bad time.
    Well, we know all the syptoms and we have all experienced them to different degrees and like i say its not nice going through that but once you are out the other side life is a much better place. I did it for over 50 days earlier in the year, and i got so much done and life was not easy as i was out of work at the time, but i managed much better. The only reason i had my first drink after that time was because i had an old flame turn up on my doorstep, out of the blue half cut, with a bottle of vodka in her handbag and was looking for a night of hell haising? So i blew it? and then she did too lol? Anyway it can be done.

    Rebecca, Gillian, Martin, Jax, Im glad you all pop your heads in and am very gratefull for your support. I especially thank Jax, as she has a few problems outside of drinking, to drop a line and look out for me. God bless you all x.

    • Gillian says:

      Hey Steve…You’re a champion dribbler too! I love your posts. Think I’ve mentioned before my memory of your decorating the bathroom in a moment of sobriety, when I first joined the site…Your posts then made me laugh when I was feeling like crap!! xxx

      • Steve says:

        Decorating the bathroom babes? I hardly would say a bolster chissel decorates? Thats what you ladies do after? Putting little dolls over toilet rolls with big frocks on? (yuk) Remember that?
        I didnt realise you had been here that long. Gillian i think you are fantastic! Well done you. I wish i was like you. xxx

  11. Sean says:

    BOUNCE hahahaha dont ya just hate that when that happens………Wat happened you may be asking well some thing i think most of us have done at some point. LOL So there i was people editing me mini dv video last night you no the one that gave me so many problems. Well i got the thing done at last. I cant say i am really happy with it but it will do the job. Sitting there smoking like a steam train after me Friday night 3 pints at the pub i was at the computer desk i had no ash tray well i had a can of coke sitting there that i had took in the room with me so all me buts went in to this half filled can of coke. Watched the film back and thought bed time or jump time. Not a bad jump night as it goes. Not a bad sleep. Well gets up Massive slash tea then takes the dog out comes back done a couple of things and thought right time to put this film on DVD and try it on the TV. Takes a can of coke from the fridge up i goes took an ash tray with me cracks me can of coke open big swig puts it back down on me desk that is absolutely full of clutter to the point were i can hardly see the monitor. Puts me smoke in the ash tray hits burn on the dvd player and reaches for me coke BIG SWIG…Uhhhh oh jesus uhhh Big mouth full of nicotine coke and fag buts. Now you no when you start gagging and you can even feel your bum cheeks nipping but you cant spit it out because in my case i only had the walls painted the other week well i started to run for the bathroom but could not hold it in and its all now over the nice clean wall paper on the up stairs landing…Tried to wash it off but put a hole in the paper in the proses of trying……………….I don’t no wat the kin hell i am going to say to her when she looks at it………………..Ye i will have to think a bit more about that one and some how make it her fault lol…….Maybe i will say some thing like WELL how the hell was i to no you bought tracing paper to hang as kin wall paper you cheep skate and then you have the ghoul to shout at me for trying to clean it..Some thing along those lines lol c yazz

  12. Steve says:

    Sean,
    Amanda called me today. (not Amanda on here) I new she would call.
    Im so pleased, She asked me why i was like i am? I said just lucky i guess?
    we are friends again.

  13. Sean says:

    Hi all….Well a strange thing happened today i had to go see the land lord at the pub i use to pick some thing up. So i went out there and was there all of 10 minutes no booze well as i was there i was talking about this new combo DVD VHS recorder thing ..So he says oh i have an old VHS video tape of a new years party here from years ago is there any chance you could try to put that on dvd for me…So i said yes m8 no probs i will have a go at it….Well put the tape in and disc hit record of the thing goes recording…When it had done its job i thought i would play it back and see wats on it…Well i had a bit of a shock because my dad was on it drinking and having the crack with one of my friends nd there looking at the camera saying make shore you get this or some thing like that….It was strange as we only have pics of him and most of them are crap but it was strange to see him alive as you might say having wat looked to be a right good crack…It was nice in fact it was a real comfort in a way….If the date on the video is rite he died 15 days later…He looks well there is a clip where you can see him trying to breath but he looks fitish…Mad it is really well i showed my mum it and she was like me very silent….Its so strange when you see some one you love or loved that are dead walking or speaking on a film

  14. Dolly says:

    Hi all,
    Well done Martin, hello others, cant believe its over a year since I took on 100 days then ‘fell off’ but have actually gained a measure of control. How strange that it took a complete and total ‘no go’ to get here.

    My thanks to Sean and recently Steve, am still ‘looking in’ from time to time.

    Ramona, are you still out there?

    Keep the faith one and all
    Dolly
    xox

    • Rebecca says:

      Dolly! I was just thinking about you today! Glad to hear you’ve maintained some control. It was Steve’s story about re-doing his bathroom that reminded me, I think he helped you to fix your loo if I remember correctly. Yes, I’ve been wondering about Ramona too. I hope all is well with you. I’m staying in control too, I go for 2 or 3 weeks at a time sober for now. It’s been over a year since I went for 100 days. Sometimes I think seriously about going for 6 months, but never seem to do it.

      Rebecca

      • Dolly says:

        Rebecca,
        Whats this about losing your job???? for me that would also be the dizzy limit.
        Sorry if I seem a little random and staccato – but like so many others am also in a year straight from hell. I had a bit of a read this morning but did not take too much in.

        I got an email from Steve over this weekend and have had support from Sean also. Yes, Steve did help with the loo, and my water bill has gone down heaps! cant imagine why lol.

        Like you, I entertain the idea of doing the 6 month thing again but just dont seem to get the ‘zone’ into my head. Take care.

        Dolly
        xox

      • Rebecca says:

        I’m really glad you posted, Dolly! Yes, I lost the job, but I’m over it now. Everything is fine again, I’m just enjoying life and the time off, since I may be going back to work soon (I have an interview at least). Keep in touch!

  15. Steve says:

    Well well,
    Hello Dolly! I didnt think you would post babes? So glad you have!! Right lets all do six months, just let me finish me large one, then im on it lol.
    As it goes i havent drunk much this weekend at all. No money? A blessing in disguise! x

  16. Sean says:

    Any one for a roast dinner. Lets see ummmm A nice lump of tender juicy moist sliced beef roast potatoes Yorkshire Pudding parsnips cabbage Marrowfat peas ohhh and stuffing and oh maybe some bread stuffing to with proper beef gravy….Shame i have got beans on toast lol

  17. Sean says:

    Right i want some advise and i am hopeful some one has had this first hand. As you all no i have real trouble with my lower back Disc is shot and pops in and out and sits on a nerve so on and so on PAIN….Now i get pain in my upper back now and then. But not like this…My symptoms are as follows ..Sharp pain in the middle upper back as in the centre right between and just under the shoulder blades this then travels round my right hand side until its in the centre of my chest. I then have problems with food as in it feels like its stuck in my upper food pipe you no wat i mean were you get hart burn….Some thing i all ways had as a hard drinker.. If i try to burp i start to choke on my own food it just pops back up but i am all ways gulping air as in swallowing air to try to put the food back down. This is some thing i have to do or i would have food stuck back up my neck so don’t confuse that bit with anxiety because that’s some thing a lot of people do and i use to but i no the difference….The back problem as in the upper part i have had on and off for 3 or 4 years it just seems to flair up now and then now because my bottom lower back it shot i thought i may be compensating to much with my upper body and wrenching my muscles and this i thought was wats giving me the pain but it don’t explain the throat thing as in stuck food. Now i was talking to my mum today and she said i bet you have ghoul stones….And maybe i cant spell this so i will improvise a ….high te us…. hernia in conjunction with it.

    • Steve says:

      Hi Mate,
      Right i dont want to put the shits up you or nothing but thats what i get mate. A pain under my right shoulder blade like a real pain in the back, not so much at the side then at the front where the solaplexis is and then to the right. tender to the touch if you push it hard? Well it sounds the same mate and if it is like that its damage to your pancreas and liver mate. I have never been checked out by a doctor but i get that pain real bad if ive been drinking heavily. I still get it but duller when i havent and the only time it went was when i stopped drinking for that 50 days. It swells up as well and i cand get food down and I can also sometimes get problems with heartburn in my throat when im like it. Unfortunatly your liver doesnt repair its self once sclorocis has set in. That bit just goes hard and grey and is useless. (As far as i have read anyway). I could be wrong? But i have always assumed that the pain was my liver, feels like you got a knife right through you when its bad. I havent had it so bad for a while as i have cut down a lot.
      Dont mean to sound morbid mate. I should get yourself checked out?

    • lenny8960 says:

      Sean a while back I had all of those symptoms and went to the GP who sent me for gallstones, I too was having trouble digesting food and all of the same pains you have although it was my left side where i had the shoulder pain. They told me believe it or not it was acid reflux due to stress and a knot in my shoulder and upper back from the stress as well. Well after i found that out I was so relieved it almost totally went away. Moral to the story is go get checked out just in case and maybe knowing it is really nothing might relieve some of the tension. Lower back that I understand, my is shot as well, that’s just something I live with.
      Hope you feel better.
      Lenny

      • Sean says:

        That pain Lenny in the left shoulder i all so get and a dull pain going right down my left arm…The last time i see the GP he said it maybe a cold shoulder and to rest it for 6 or 7 weeks…Its still there. Acid reflux ye you may be on to some thing there but i don’t get the burning feeling like i did when i was drinking hard but it does wake me up choking on it if i sleep flat….I had a peptic ulcer about 14 years ago i had treatment but it may be that but i have a feeling its ghoul stones

  18. Dolly says:

    Morning all,
    Lovely to see you Sean – and my thanks for the support earlier in the year. Now you get your butt to a GP! any kind of chest pain, oh and yep, my gall stones and gall bladder left the planet a couple of years ago, as you are a boy, only the girls with kids will know, the pain is like labour but with the top half of the body – as a boy, you dont do the labour thing. See your GP!!!!!
    It doesnt matter if you cant stand him/her, find one you can.

    Rebecca, thanks for the note, I am pleased you are over it and have an interview – all the best. Its still gut wrenching though.

    Jax, Gillian, where are you, hope you had a good long weekend, sounds like things are coming along for you both – please keep in touch (if you remember me) even if you dont. Communication is always good.

    Martin – how many days???? what are you doing to fill them, more importantly, has it started to leave your head yet? keep going, keep going.

    Steve, when you finish the bathroom, I have a wall needs a repaint! ha ha, but do you still have your home or have you moved, you are working now, ok, obviously you cant post where but a yes/no answer is alright. Try not to go crazy with a paintbrush in one hand, wont look good in the press.

    One day at a time people, thats how we do it, keeping the faith one day at a time.

    Dolly xox

  19. Sean says:

    Wat was wrong with that post i sent admin

    • admin says:

      you know exactly what was wrong with it Sean. Inappropriate.

      • Steve says:

        Let. the boy. alone.

      • Sean says:

        Well i am not shore i understand tobin…..That was just a bit of banter for gillian to have a laugh at…..Ok may i ask you one of the things i said in a different manner then………As you are a alcoholic did you urinate your self when you was very drunk back when you was drinking…..And if you was in bed with a woman and the bed was to small and the woman’s back side was on the large side and you was falling out of the bed would you ask the lady to kindly move over a notch or would you sit there and suffer in silence.

      • Rebecca says:

        Sean, behave yourself or I’m gonna have to whip you like my little brothers. Admin wouldn’t disrespect a woman, he’s a more evolved primate…obviously.

      • Sean says:

        I am not shore i see were the link is with that…I must be a Pre Madonna then….Oh yes i see now its that good old USA humour ye sorry it took me a day to work it out…..Their is no man in me only a kid and that’s the way i like it…But i don’t whip kids no only a bully would do that…And wat is a bully….Sad person

      • Sean says:

        I am not shore i see were the link is with that…I must be a Pre Madonna then….Oh yes i see now its that good old USA humour ye sorry it took me a day to work it out…..Their is no man in me only a kid and that’s the way i like it…But i don’t whip kids no only a bully would do that…And wat is a bully….Sad person…..Oh by the way do your brothers like you whipping them some do you no..

  20. Sean says:

    I have a paint brush at the ready 2 steve…..I am going to set up a web site Steve called Appeal to leave me money in your will. Some one must be crazy enough to leave me a little bit….Or of course if they would like to give me cars that’s cool by me…..Right back to the front room with me brush..Xmas will soon be here again and that’s when family turn up unannounced ……Thinking of popping exlax in there coco this time like a hole bar lol

  21. Steve says:

    Hi all,

    Whats all this about me and paint brushes? lol? I finished my bathroom ages ago, when you were still here Dolly x. I hate decorating. My ex wife had me at it all the time! When she buggerd off it was a relief to be abe to sit down.
    I am one of those guys who can do everything thats the trouble. Its a pain in the backside. I dont know why i just have a knack of seeing it, whatever ‘it’ is and then doing it. Building, plastering, plumbing, electrical work, carpentry, Mechanics, Fitting, Tiling, assault, affray? No no no, I dont like it. I suppose when you do an apprentiship in mechanical engineering everything else is easy? (exept spelling that is)

    I am working Dolly, I got a job at a bespoke glass works, Very ‘Portside Out Starbourt Home’ Indian summer luvvy? Not what i thought i’d do. Machining glass on a CNC mill. It was the last thing i was looking for but it kind of fell in my lap. There are not too many people who can program in fanuc and siemens code who would concider glass work i suppose? I dunno. I make all sorts of things, Those big glass oval tables you see on the news, and all manor of unusual things? Last week, i think, i made the Kitchen surfaces for No1 Park lane. 19mm thick optiwhite glass with all the sink hole cut outs and tap holes and such, which doesn’t sound that interesting, but the end results are beautiful, thats what i like about it.
    Iv’e made glass Podiums, night club DJ boxes, floors that you can see through to The level below with, what they call ‘cracked ice’ appearance (2 bits of non toughend 19mm with a piece of 6mm toughend and laminated between them so when you machine it the 6mm breaks like a car windscreen, but the two bits of 19mm hold it together). It would put the wind up me walking over it, but hey these people get their jolleys how they want? An elephant wouldn’t to go through it.
    Its not making turbo charger’s, or aircraft work, like i am used to, but its clean and more interesting to me.
    Another feather in my cap! As the soldier would say after blunder busting his least favorite red indian.
    I have still got my house. It’s still on the market? Hmm? I would have thought it would have sold by now as it’s so nice, but i dont know whats going on?

    Sean! Govnor says ‘Inappropriate’ mate! You been writing naughty things again dog! Lol! If your not carefull it will be smacked legs for you son beam! You had better start behaving now Dolly’s back mate or she will have your gut’s for garter’s!
    So Sean you have people drop round at christmas? Your doing better than i am man! Don’t use ex lax, though mate? Make some space cookies, they are just normal cookies but you put silver foil round them? Im joking boss!… I know He should use the ex lax?
    You should go to the quack’s mate, just get a once over and its free? I won’t bug you on this one, as im the worst in the world for going. My doctor sent me two letters asking me to come to some over fourty man’s health check thing, bullshit. Cheeky beggar! He can shut the front door! Over forty! Johnny Depps 43 and i bet he’s not been! lmfao.

    Last bit! Ive had a real bad day today. Many problems financially. (If i told you what i earnt now, you would think me greedy) At this time last year i had put over £250,000 through my business accounts in one year. My bank loved me. Would give me the world? (that was not by any way all mine, it was wages inclusive) But now they are 100% ignorant to that fact and are nailing me to the floor.
    In all seriousness (if thats a word) Dont ever let your head go into the cloud, because when you come out under, the vultures will bite your eyes out the same as the next man. I wont ever make the same mistake again if i have the chance.
    Right im off to save the universe on my Xbox, Where i talk to other loon’s.
    God bless.
    x

    • Dolly says:

      To both Steve and Sean,
      THE PAIR OF YOU OFF TO SEE A GP!!

      Swelling and pain? yu both know full well this needs a check up – not a load of old tales. There are other things that could be going on, theory and crystal balls wont do it! this is your telling off! we drink, we suffer, we know this, so why are we avoiding what we could perhaps fix?
      Cirroccis(sorry, no spell check on here) of the Liver? – you wont know until its confirmed, also ‘fatty liver’ tends to arrive first as a warning, also, you may be lucky enough to get away with ‘inflammation of the liver’ as the liver can be a little short on nerve endings, feeling pain is NOT a good thing.
      Hiatus hernia (you did have a really good stab at the spelling Sean) again, see someone who can send you for the relevant tests.
      All chest pain needs checking – dont worry about wasting someones time.
      Pancreas? sorry guys, have just watched someone incredibly close die slowly and horribly of this. Purple patches are a key sign, not the only sign, not always the same thing, but this person was mis-diagnosed. Sadly, this gruesome thing can creep up, its probably what keeps me off the sauce now.

      Please anyone with any ‘funny’ ‘odd’ or ‘just concerned’ symptoms! get it checked.
      Thats the ‘telling off’ for the day.

      Right, now, where are the girls? Gillian, Jax, Ruth? anyone who needs to ‘unload’ where are you? Martin? how many days now?
      Come on guys and doll, keep the faith- post!
      Dolly
      xox

  22. Sean says:

    Lets have a recap on the alcoholic or near alcoholic stars…Right lets start with me old m8 Guzzla Gazza he seems to be out of the lime light in most big name papers so i will take it that’s a good thing and he is doing his best to do his best…Next we have scratch and sniff Miss akuna wine bottle house fantastic singer but no were as good as she was when she was normal needs to reclaim her edge again and she will…she is in the papers and having been in the same ish sort of situation i have to side with the papers and say as much as she thinks she is doing Mr scratch and sniff docmanunanny a favour i think it will all end in tears maybe in a weekend rehab some were. So buckle up beehive. Rent a flat for him….Who next umm oh yes miss Busoomus aknuendo Jo guest not in the papers but likes a van full of drink…I felt a little sad for her when i watched her last video. They did try hard to gloss her up but the drink has knocked 10 ton out of her but then i have all so done things for drink in the past that will keep cropping up from time to time…..The list of booze cruse heads is endless in the star boat but i feel i have to end this on wat i consider to have been the most important person ever to run this country…Yes its akamoose Mr tungsten him self Tony Blair he has come clean about his drinking he says its the truth but i guess he is bending the truth a little…Tony wat can i say apart from this All us booze heads all new you was one of us you see we can spot one a mile away its a gift we all have in common…..He says he is in control now so i wont rant… Good luck to him i hope he controls his drinking better than he did this country but to be fair he all ways was a yes man. c yazz

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