Neuro-Electric Therapy
Neuro-Electric Therapy is a new method for easing the withdrawal from heroin or other opiates. The addict is required to apply electrodes behind the ear, which are then electrically stimulated daily for six to ten days using a control pack which the addict carries with them.
The electrical currents are said to stimulate nerve pathways (much like acupuncture), thus reducing any cravings for opiates and lessening the painful withdrawal symptoms. However the researchers are keen to point out that this treatment is not an alternative to counselling or rehabilitation, merely an effective method for dealing with the physicalities.
A trial of neuro electric therapy in Scotland has produced very promising results. This is expected to lead to much bigger trials of the treatment in the near future.
Not sure how I’d feel about walking around with cables trailing around my head, and hopefully there’s fuses in place to prevent short circuits and a quick dose of ECT! Still, if it helps make the cluck a bit easier then sign me up.
This is a revolutionary new treatment which could save the lifes of thousands of drug addicts! Although still at its early stages of development, the treatment seems to be having hugly possitive effects. The truth seems to be that the only reason why the NHS will not accept this , is due to loss of profits gained from the replacement drugs they currently offer to addicts in rehab. If only they could look beyond money and do what is morally correct for once!!
First of all – hear hear Smith, well said.
My 21 year old son has been a heroin addict for 3 years, in and out of prison due to the shop-lifting and such to fund his habit. I have tried to find help for him to help kick this habit but here in the North of Scotland our options are very limited. We have tried it all, He has been on a D.T.O. (Drug Treatment Order) taking methadone and other drugs, I have taken weeks off work on several occasions to try and help him through the worst first weeks when he’s rattling and to try and keep him away from the people who so readily supply him with heroin, all to no avail. On numerous occasions myself, my partner and my other kids have to sit and watch him gouching. I have gone through months on end wondering when that knock on the door was going to come, telling us he was dead. Right now he’s at home with us, on his third day off heroin and almost getting back to his old self but we’ve been here before and the cynic (or realist) in me is saying – “For how long this time?” Show me where to sign him up for trials of this and I’ll be first in the queue.
Should be interesting to see how it works with alcohol addiction, sounds safer than the Ibogaine way..
I would like to try this method to see if it works for me – i might even get my life back because right now i feel like a prisoner stuck in methadone land and its not a nice place to be. so how do i go about getting this NET?
How do I go about offering myself for trials, I would desperately like to try this out.
Please, anyone with info on how to do this can you post info on this site so that I may follow it up, as David says, this is not a nice place to be! Thanks
my understanding of the net trials in scotland is it has had very limited success with addicts back repeatedly for further treatment. My friend approached these people to help her rid herself of a metadone addiction problem first visit looked good was told this is going to happen for you,second visit it was all changed she was told the owners of the net patent were having talks with the private rehabs and this charity had no money to fund her treatment. her friend who was on the trial told of a rehab/charity that has a net device she asked to referred to them heard nothing phoned rehab/charity said they would put her on their list heard that before. did the owners this net/tens? device exploit the maxi richards foundation rehab/charity, the third step charity,and the addicts for commercial gain.bbc footage was heavily edited none of the bad stuff was shown ie no sleep for weeks and heavy tripping
Could any one shed any light on who is conducting these trials?? also does anyone know of any private practices that offer this sort of treatment??
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This is the problem nobody is doing trials of it because most trials are funded by drug companies. It was tested in 1985 by NHS funded researchers but there was no consultation with the original inventors Meg Patterson and Karl Schmidt who although he was a consultant psychiatrist, came from outside established addiction research. They found it to be ‘no more effective than methadone, and it was tossed aside as just another half-baked ‘alternative’ therapy. But in those days nobody not even its inventors knew how or why it worked or exactly what endorphins were or what opioid receptors do. With modern imaging studies we can see the brain respond to drugs or stress. We can even watch video footage of neurons growing dendritic spines and boutons growing new synapses through the stimulation of learning. No attempt appears to have been made since then to find out why the results were different. The therapy has been and still is working on private patients with a 95% success rate and only 1.7 relapse rate since 1981 [compared to the reverse with methadone]. The only clinics where it is available are Karl Schmidt’s in Yeovil Somerset and Patterson’s in Glasgow. Write to your MPs, the Health Minister and to Mike Trace the ex-drug Tsar ask them why the government has not funded more research into NET treatments, which used properly can heal every addiction from tobacco to sex, not just heroin.
I am desperately trying to find out how i can do this trial, it seems after searching no one knows which is very annoying. Please Please let me know how i can as i cant handle this life for much longer. This should be widely known to the people who need it – if it does work not only would it save lives but would hugely reduce the costs of treatment. Like i say i’d love to try it.
A friend’s son has been under treatment for heroin addiction a number of times. We live in South Africa. Is there anybody in South Africa that could give us more information on NET? Or do you have a contact number so that we can ask his father (parents are divorced) who is residing in the UK to obtain some information for us?
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Joe Winston has set up NET studies in the USA and there is also one in South Africa but I am not sure which city Cape Town or Johanesburg. You could try putting George Patterson and NET into Google
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/have-scientists-finally-discovered-the-answer-to-addiction-440193.html
http://www.netdevice.net/aboutdetox.php
You can contact one clinic through its consultant Professor Karl Schmidt at his Somerset address on this website. I am sure he will also be happy to send you his book. Healing Addiction Without Drugs (or cold turkey)
http://clinmed.netprints.org/cgi/content/full/2000110003v1
I would be very interested to know if there is any way i would be able to try this net treatment as i have been on methodone a long time and had many relapses and i heard about the success rate from this n.e.t treatment and would appreciate it if you could tell me is it possible to go anywhere to get it done.
does anyone know where you can go to get this treatment even if its private treament somehere , I am from Glasgow and want to know how i go about being able to try this treatment , if you know where it can be done please contact me at , eddiebhoy2005@hotmail.co.uk
Iv tried finding out about NET for 6 months now and nobody seems to be able to help. It seems a much better option than using another drug like methadone. If anyone can give me any information i would be extremely grateful.midimagee@hotmail.com
hey people, you can buy a device designed by one of the
original researchers in the field: Dr. Robert C. Beck.
search for bt-6 or brain tuner to learn more. alternativly,
the one company beck worked close with is Sotainstruments. -find them and you’ll have all you need
to apply this therapy *now* and by yourself..
(also, to learn about Dr. Becks other research, search
on “Beck Protocol” -there are a few of his video lectures
on google vids. -i have used his blood cleaner device with extremely good results)
good luck,
-soundwash
im 25yrs old – ive been taken heroin for 7yrs now, ive been on methadone for 2/3 yrs. i lost my mum to cancer, i was 12 yrs old – my dad had nothing to do with me so my gran and papa took on the parenting thats my mums side, then 3yrs ago my dad died. so i was staying with my gran but she passed away on 1st may 2007 she was my 2nd mum. i want to come off everything please can you help me as i would like to try NET i would even be a guinnie pig. yours sincerly LINDSAY ROWLAND
I wonder how your doing now
I have been on gear for over ten years now, I’ve tried the electro therapy they have in our local drug service place with mixed results although this is not exactly the same as NET it is supposed to help withdrawal symptoms, I have also tried tens machines in various places around my body – back, neck, arms / legs etc with no luck. They really need to radically overhaul the ‘war on drugs’ strategy and start handing out heroin to addicts so we can wean ourselves off safely and in our own time. This method had had spectacularly successful results in Switzerland and crime rates plummetted accordingly. They need to take the drugs out of the hands of the dealers..
what u just said will not help any1 i think u need to think what u really want an do it how everlong it takes.
I would like info on the NET drug trails in respect to amphetamines, as this makes perfect sense to me. We would really like to be able to get my partener(as would he) on this trial as it’s the lack of his own bodies chemical balances that sends him into a deep depression after the phyiscal withdraw. so something that speeds ups the process in producing and regulating the natural chemical balances has got to help in solving the problem of getting clean and staying clean after the physical withdraw.
I successfully used NET in 1980 when it was being pioneered by Dr. Meg Patterson (who treated Eric Clapton and Keith Richards). She had a treatment centre called Pharmakon. At the time it was in Broadhurst Manor in Sussex and was in combination with group and occupational therapy.
BACKGROUND
I had a two-year old opiate habit and had been injecting a synthetic opiate called Palfium (Dextromoramide – no longer prescribed in the UK since 2003). Toward the end of the two years I was injecting myself about 50 times a day and the last two weeks before receiving NET I was injecting every 30 minutes – I was a dab-hand with the needle! (Palfium has a very short half-life and my tolerance was immense).
NET helped me! It reduced the withdrawal symptoms significantly (it was hard for her to find the right setting as palfium was an unknown opiate to her and I’m sure had I been mainly on Heroin which was familiar to her my withdrawals would have been reduced even more). Due to the very short half-life the cold-turkey with Palfium was savage and I believe NET possibly saved my life as I’m not sure I would have endured that pain without it! Although it IS posssible to do it!
After a few days I felt a LOT better. NET also increases recovery time.
Meg Patterson (who, sadly died, a few years ago) wrote some books on her research and I am cited (anonymously) in the book.
If you’ve tried and failed to get off your drug of choice, try and get NET.
Good luck and blessings to all of you who suffer with addiction.
Ive used net and it really helped me!! there right its not magic you really need to want to stay clean, or net will get u off drugs/drink and if ur not prepared to stay clean or realize you dont want to, well like many people ull be back to square 1. i recommend going into a residental rehab to sort ur head out.
I am a practitioner whom works with Electro-Stimulation therapy, working on a much similar basis to that of Megs system. I work in a Drug & Alcohol agency that does not offer substitute medication and this treatment is extremely popular and is effective, not only in substance withdrawel but also in other symptoms that accompany substance use ie. anxiety, paranoia, sleep issues & depression.
If you google Biophysical Solutions, they supply equipment, training and information/advise. Or check with your local Drug & Alcohol agency as this treatment method is on the increase!
i wiz in maxis home and seen it work for myself gary scott fi fife
Neuro Electric Therapy (curing addiction without drugs) and the crucial follow up rehabilitation free from drugs of any kind were conducted at Yeovil NHS Hospital by Professor Karl Schmidt and Dr Meg Paterson as early as 1981 with a 90% success rate with a substantial number of people.
There is no need for lengthy trials and delays in implementing Karl Schmidt’s proven methods. However, this has to be a State organised A to Z response to treating many forms of addiction, diet deficiencies and disorders, which must be dealt with under highly competent medical supervision.
This will require sensitive community policing, compulsory medical supervision and rehabilitation in environments where individuals can enter a new enlightened world of self help encouragement, supervised work groups and training, and full time work in practical and rural skills. For example Work Groups for Wildlife.
The advantages of a bold approach are in securing the demise of the spiral of drug crime, removing at least 236 methadone drug deaths recorded in the last year in England, a massive cut in the £39 billion annual cost of drug and alcahol abuse to society, and above all providing a much better life for at least 1 million people in England, who are currently not in work or education in what is unfortunately a hostile envirionment forced upon them by Government failures.
Preventative medcine using the lastest neurotherapy technology has the potential of reducing National Health Service costs by up to 50%.
For further details contact Edmund Marriage – Patrick Foundation Golden Age Project – patrickfound@btinternet.com
just been through a detox using the NET and have to say i’m pretty amazed. been addicted to heroin for 16 years and this is the only thing that has worked. was through my rattle in 4 days or so (which seemed about the average for the guys that were in) you still need to want it (although it does take away the cravings 100%)
good luck to anyone trying to beat the smak. just keep on tryin, something will work eventually if you want it.
if i can give anyone info that they think they could use. googlebop@yahoo.com
If you could make it look like a I-Pod then no-one would know the difference
The NET treatment is available in our Rehabilitation Centre, based near Kirkcudbright in the South West of Scotland.
Contact the Lochbank Trust on 01557 870016 or see our website at
http://www.lochbanktrust.org.uk.
For further information on NET, please visit their website at http://www.netdevice.net